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When you see the notes on the keyboard as you play, that means your MIDI Input driver is correct. So look closer at your MIDI Output device.. This is where the problem lies.
Try a different default output device (even though it shouldn't matter because you are rerouting all MIDI to DXi synth). We've seen this work before. Try changing the output device while leaving the reroute selected.
Also, is there a synth listed in the 'reroute all midi' checkbox for which default synth to actually use?
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Only the CoyoteWT is available in the dropdown, the other choice is none. I have tried all 4 of the midi drivers with this, no sound when the Re-Route box is checked. Seems like the issue must be with the CoyoteWT.
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On your recent install media is a free 30 day trial of Coyote Forte. Try that as a test. You may actually like it and decide it's worth $40; I did. If not just remove it.
That way you can test whether the 'WT' part of the CoyoteWT is present on your system. This WaveTable part relies on a dll file having been installed with Windows, so I've seen situations where when it was missing and the WT version failed.
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Nothing on cd, but it is on their web site. So I
Will download that. There seems to be multiple output
drivers now, ASIO, coyote, the midi list.
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What do you make of this, I found it in the online help.
Using a DXi synth will simplify the problem, since the MIDI and audio tracks are routed to the same audio device in this case.
(Mainly this portion, I have Vista 64 bit)
Note: The VSC-DXi is not compatible with 64-bit operating system - an alternative is to use the ForteDXi or TTS-1 soft synth. If you aren't using a DXi synth, find out whether it's MIDI or Audio/RealTracks that you aren't hearing, or both.
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I just installed a download from the web site, ForteDXi plugin, select that as the Default Dxi, same problem no sound. The no sound also happens with loading any files for playback.
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Hi, Jeff -
It just doesn't make sense that you are getting no sound.
Are you able to post some screen capture images of your setup. It would help if you posted:
* the Audio Settings window
* click on MME in Audio Settings and then post the box that pops up
* click on ASIO in Audio Settings and then post the box that pops up
* in the ASIO box, click on ASIO driver's control panel, then click the wrench icon, and if any of the items in the list have a plus sign, expand the list and post that window
* go back to the main screen and click on the MIDI driver setup button and post that window
That should help us see what you see on your screen and can better troubleshoot this.
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Hi John,
Could not get the screen shots to post into the forum so I emailed you them.
Thanks
Jeff
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Hi Jeff26,
The problem that I have with the ASIO4ALL driver is that it always defaults to the wrong output device, and I often have to re-select the correct one. In the ASIO4ALL control panel, you might see more than one device listed in the "WDM" list. If so, the first one is probably highlighted. You need to try clicking on it to un-highlight it, then highlight another one in the list (try each one if you are not sure which is the right one).
It is important that you close PowerTracks after selecting a different output device. The ASIO driver will not respond to the change until you start up PowerTracks again.
Blake
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Jeff sent me screenshots of his configuration, so I'm posting them (they're all in the Word document) here for others to take a look at as well. It seems to me that we should be able to get to the bottom of this. Unfortunately, I've got to do some "real job" stuff this evening, so I probably won't get to it until later, but I was hoping that Bob Harvey could take a look at it.
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Well for one thing the ASIO audio drivers window is set to main out when the headphone out is available as a selection here ... first thing I saw. Worth trying.
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In audio prefs full duplex is not enabled so it mey not be playing if record is hit ...
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In Audio Drivers window, soundmapper is selected. This can sometimes be an issue, you may want to select the soundcard itself (conexant) but make this the last thing you try. Try something, Open PT and see if it helped, if not close PT, try something else, then open PT again. When changing drivers, as staff here mentioned above; it is best to restart the program after making changes, and checking to make sure the changes 'stuck'.
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Jeff, is your computer a laptop or a desktop? What brand?
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One other item I found was that if choose mme
rather than ASIO I do get audio with coyote, but is
delayed again.
I have a toshiba laptop about 2 years old, vista ultimate
for the OS. I had thought maybe the sound card but I can
get sound just very delayed.
At work now, will try these suggestions this evening
Thanks for all your time
Jeff
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Okay, and maybe tonight we can go through it step by step until we hopefully get it working. Yes, the DXi synth will have latency with the keyboard when using MME. I'll think about it today and hopefully we can get this finally fixed tonight.
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One of the first things I would try is -
the ASIO audio drivers window is set to 'main out' when the 'headphone out' is available as a selection. You said you heard nothing in the headphones and this seems like a good possibility.
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I know on my laptop, when using MME, I can just plugin my headphones and it over-rides the speakers; however, if I use ASIO, I have to use different audio-outs depending on whether I want speakers or headphones.
I would start at the basics and make sure to have a piece of paper and pencil handy to write down the settings.
Forget about MIDI to start with.
Set everything up for MME and just load a WAV file or an MP3 file into PTPA. Make sure you can hear the audio with both speakers and headphones. Then do the same for ASIO. You may have to play with the settings some, but there aren't that many.
If you do audio input (such as using a microphone or recording a guitar), set the input devices and make sure the input is coming through for recording while the underlying source is playing (that's where the full-duplex setting comes in). It doesn't have to be in tune or match, you just need to be able to capture it and hear it.
Once it works for MME, then try to get the same thing going for ASIO (headphones and speakers). Once that works, then we can switch to getting the MIDI to work.
Jeff, if you feel comfortable with it, then PM me or email me with a phone number and I'll try to see if I can talk you through it. I don't have Vista, but I have Windows 7, and the audio interface is basically the same between the two, so we should be able to figure it out.
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Hi,
Did not get as much time to try this tonight as I wanted, heading out for Mem day tommorow, be back on Sunday.
Tried all the suggestions in the posts, still not working right.
For the drivers,
when I use MME, it works with every driver in that Audio drivers box. I change drivers in MIDI and it works with everyone except the LoopB. Actaully do not even know if the MIDI drivers effect MME. The default DX was check during all this too. With all the driver selections audio was delayed, latency.
Switching to ASIO, it to will work with all MIDI drivers except the LoopB, delayed audio. If I check the Re-route box, no audio.
All the above performs the same when playing mp3.
So, any time I do get audio through PC speakers or headphones it is always delayed.
What started this is that I would like to play a song, mp3, and then play along, easier to learn.
I am wondering if I can route the mp3, or seq to my keyboard headphones vs using the pc output as that
does not seem to work
Jeff
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Well I am heading to Madison for a couple of days
and then I will get back to this.
Couple of thoughts, seems like things point
to ASIO . Maybe they have a different driver then what
I am using. Maybe I need to unistall and install pt.
No driver experimenting seems to work
I wonder if version 2011 is better
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It could also be the Conexant audio card; read on the web lots of folks having problems with it and ASIO. Again, let me know when you get back. PM me a phone number and we can talk through it. It's sometimes hard to get to the bottom of things with forum communication. This has become a challenge; I think there is a solution and we just have to figure it out.
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Hi
Got back to this for a bit last night working
with the ASIO drivers. Tried selecting headphones
and the driver port ASIO claims is headphones. No
difference. The ASIO drivers window randomly adds
or removes driver selections . There always is a (0,1)
choice, most times a (2, 3) choice and last night it
sporadicly added a (4,5) port selection. No surprise none
worked while they were available.
Vista claims my conexant drivers are up to date
Jeff
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