You can pan all you want. When the room is not a perfect square and you set it up at home it becomes a waste of time.

I have tried all the tricks.

I now am on the Bose mono thing, big stick and a nice bass module. This for me has been the best solution. If you have time, the guys to do it, and the gear, then great, go for a stereo thing in a stadium near you.

If not, go for some good bass, a nice high end, and muck around with the placement of your instruments live.

I'm not hearing from people that they don't like the set up. But that's a whack of old people listing to the likes on NY NY, or Call me irresponsible. Actually it's my speakers that are maybe not responsible, or they are. Too much angst is taken up with this subject. Test some gear, and go with your gut.

A few tone deaf relatives and a bar owner should be your guide. You think you are Stan Kenton, forget it. If you don't know who he is you should spend a couple of hours of your life figuring that out.

Record your stuff and play in back standing out there. And on a break, do it with the seats full. Different effects both ways. And if you are running regular gear try and crossover and some bass bins. I run the Bose now, but the first things people comment on are the bass. Neil Swanson and Dr. Peter Gannon have hit a home run on that issue. Call me wrong, it won't work. The bass RealTracks and the whole effect are a home run. Or a UFEA away goal. Or a big time try. Maybe a hat trick. Just work with it.

JMSOOTCR (Just my sort of off the cuff remarks).

John Conley
Musica est vita