"You have to setup Reaper for that with a pile of mouse modifiers"

Let's keep it real. That is not necessary in reaper for editing. I do all my editing with traditional mouse usage.

I'm a real track user exclusively at the moment. When it comes to biab, I believe PG did a great thing with elastique. Although I don't have 2011, I do use elastique in reaper and it is very powerful. I'm quite certain it serves real tracks very well in biab 2011. So that's a huge development for biab. The only other thing I'd appreciate, for someone like me who uses biab merely for chart writing and having real tracks follow that chart, is either a smarter engine or a way to choose fills and sections manually as well. The auto generation of real tracks can be hit or miss when it comes to giving you exactly, or close to what you're looking for. And although I like auto generation and think it's an integral part of what biab offers with real tracks, manual choice for advanced users let's say, would be great as well. It would cut down on editing after the fact and give the user that much more control in a biab session. That's a tall order. For drums it should be simple enough. For other instruments, that's quite a challenge to put together and organize. But for me, I'd like a further option beyond the 'pot luck' of auto generation. Or like I said, a more refined and intellegent brain assembling real track parts behind the scenes- I mean the software, not the people lol!

As for real band, only a few things make an otherwise not bad daw fall short for me. Latency for all movements within the program, lack of envelope automation, and the lack of typical cursor behavior, and seriously long waits to save while in progress. I view real band as a work in progress and maybe the vision will never be to make it a serious contender to the majors. I don't care really. It does what I need it to do and I'm fine with that. I've always been one to use different tools for their strengths, so I have no problem software hopping, and even hardware hopping, to get the jobs done.

Dan