Hey folks another thread! Ahh well.

"It is time for Rb and PT to take off and fullfill what folks want. Take Rb to the next level, add volume envelopes, refine midi, and audio editing a bit more, finish the VSTi coding so it uses all VSTis, even the ones with time adjsutment like jamstix, and rework the ASIO implimentation a bit more, so that ASIO is more usable than WDM. Make it so folks think long and hard before draging files to Cubase, Reaper, Sonar, whatever. It really is not that far away."


Hey Rob you suprise me (grin)

Many will characterise me as wanting a fundamental rethink - well not really its semantics at the end of the day.

Here is what I cant do in BAIB and I would want to do in BIAB even if I had real band working

1] Play a VST instrument such as a decent piano

2] Record it (not with the idea of producing some wonderful track but just ot give my ears a bit of feedback when I am practising)

3] Add a decent reverb if i wanted to (convolution)

4]Mix the sound in a rough and ready way WITH visual feedback (yes the tiny spin buttons do a bit of this but in a very old tech way)

Until BIAB can do these things its not providing the basics in my view.

As for the interface, it looks tired but that OK. You can tweak it quite a lot though which is good. I would like ot see something like Cubase's 'Key Commands' menu so that I can do things like make the copy command into a ctrl click as I am always shoving bars around by mistake. The notation window is buggy and I don't use it at all because the screen breaks up here (through several versions and XP and Win 7).

Its obvious that there is something wrong with the way Asio works in BIAB if it cant support VST channels with multiple instruments. Doing so would not make it a sequencer.

At present I control the sound of my piano thorugh its standalone window, the overal level of BIAB output via the windows speaker icon, and the level of each instrument via tiny spin buttons (with my poor eyesight).

I dream of seeing all these levels in one panel with nice red LEDs bouncing up and down like a conventional mixer

If a person calls that a fundamental rethink, or 'turning BIAB into a DAW' then (politely) I suggest they just stay with this version and allow the company to move on. There is nothing to stop a person staying with an old version if suitable for them. None of the above would


Win 11 64, Asus Rog Strix z390 mobo, 64 gig RAM, 8700k