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Howdy.
Please don't tell me to go to Audicity forums. I've been trying to get an answer for 4 days now.
PROBLEM: On playback after recording a track, the playback is all crackling.
I 've reinstalled the program and I tried both of my sound cards, "Creative & Audiophile", recording in BIAB is fine.
Any of you wizzards have any ideas.???
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Sample rate wrong?

The soundcard and the Audacity track have to work at the same rate.


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A wizard I ain't. A few more facts might be in order.
Recorded - Audio? Midi? From Line In? Mono Track? Stereo Track?
Could you hear any problems as you monitored the recording?

Version of Windows?
Did you record directly from the cards mic input? Do you use a mixer interface plugged through your card's line-in?
Were you recording guitar directly into the card through the line-in.

Whatever else you can tell us. Just out of curiosity why not get PowerTracks - it does the same thing only better job but not as many plugins as Audacity, or for free.

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I used Goldwave for years and decided to try Audacity. I went right back to Goldwave. Everything in Audacity wanted to clip and tracks were all distorted. It may have been my familiarity with Goldwave allowing me set levels better, but I just didn't like Audacity.

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Hey Eddie - I find Aud works good on finishing touches if you import a stereo wave file say from RealBand - there are some useful plugins and export codecs. But I wouldn't use it for projects.

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Harpster already has RB or PT; this ain't his first post!
Sounds like a samplerate issue to me. BiaB is 16/44. If BiaB works you may need to set Audacity to the same rate and make sure it is using the same driver as BiaB.

A lot of Creative cards run at 16/48 for the native bitrate, so try that one in Audacity as well.

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I used Goldwave for years and decided to try Audacity. I went right back to Goldwave. Everything in Audacity wanted to clip and tracks were all distorted. It may have been my familiarity with Goldwave allowing me set levels better, but I just didn't like Audacity.




I'm with you Eddie. I'm not knocking Audacity at all - many people use it and like it.

But for the life time price of fifty bucks for Goldwave, I get so much support from the forum and the owner/developer often comes on line to answer questions.

Been using GW for so long now I forget when I started, but it must be ten years. Let's see that works out to about five bucks a year, and each year the cost goes down (you see once you pay the license fee - it's good for a lifetime of free updates).

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Gee Glen I knew there was a reason I should have bought that house just south of Nanaimo for 1.2 million with the 3 story bay window overlooking the ocean and the Yamaha grand piano facing the fireplace, hardwood floor reflecting the sunset. A bargoon after amortizing it.

Then I couldn't get the windows cleaned, the fireplace wasn't to code, the taxes were crazy, the piano needed tuning due to the humidity changes, the place faced east not west, and Diana Krall showed up to play for me and she was not 6 feet tall like in my dream, just 4 foot 10.

Otoh, Audacity has always worked for me.



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Thanks fellers for the input,
I couldn't find where to change the sample rate in Audacity.
I have disabled the Creative card and now only working with one, Audiophile, and the results are the same.
Maybe you could point a finger at where I would find the sample rate in Audicity.???
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Maybe you could point a finger at where I would find the sample rate in Audicity.???
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In Audacity 1.3.9

Edit, Preferences, Quality, Default Sample Rate - you set 44k or 48k


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It should be locked in the card too. There may be more choices there depending.

I run into this with video a lot, and need to fiddle with things. Then I don't write it out and I end up fiddling again.

There are twists and turns and pitfalls, but don't let the fiddle get out of tune, it stretches and I get wound up, and that's not sharp.

I bet these semi puns fall flat.


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John - you mean like "punsishment".

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I'm mean? Only verBoseitily. Like my L1.


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Under these conditions, some methodical trouble-shooting will turn the trick. Audacity is a deceptively large and versatile software package, and requires some perseverance to tame the beast.
(Jimi Pocius does most all his recording/production/mastering with Audacity - http://www.songplanet.com/artists/bands/1172/ - and I have done complete projects with it also. Very versatile and reliable.)

First, import a stereo audio file you know to be "crackle-free" into Audacity, and play it back through each audio card. Sound OK?

If Audacity's output sounds good with imported audio: Make certain Audacity is set to the default sample-rate of your Audio card. Record something simple (at an input level that is well below 0dB), and then apply the "normalize" function to the resulting audio set to -0.1 dB (to make absolutely sure your levels are not clipping), and play back.

Let me know how it goes.


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Gee Glen I knew there was a reason I should have bought that house just south of Nanaimo for 1.2 million with the 3 story bay window overlooking the ocean and the Yamaha grand piano facing the fireplace, hardwood floor reflecting the sunset. A bargoon after amortizing it.

Then I couldn't get the windows cleaned, the fireplace wasn't to code, the taxes were crazy, the piano needed tuning due to the humidity changes, the place faced east not west, and Diana Krall showed up to play for me and she was not 6 feet tall like in my dream, just 4 foot 10.

Otoh, Audacity has always worked for me.






John:

The reason you should have bought it was that now it's market value has doubled or tripled since you saw it.

Can't comment on the taxes, but the humidity is probably less of a problem here for pianos than anywhere else in Canada.

Facing east in Nanaimo is of course the right direction to see salt water.

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Thanks again fellers,
Summery... After following all your suggestions to solve the problem, when checking the sample rate and finding it was set at 48K as well as my sound card. I "fiddled" with a few of the settings and found it was the ""Audio Host" that was set to "Windows Direct Sound". After changing it to MME, problem solved...! I tried it with many sterio imports and didn't detect any crackling.
I'll tell ya guys, I'm sure getting a good education here on "recording basics" as well as sound card settings.
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Howdy.
Please don't tell me to go to Audicity forums. I've been trying to get an answer for 4 days now.
PROBLEM: On playback after recording a track, the playback is all crackling.
I 've reinstalled the program and I tried both of my sound cards, "Creative & Audiophile", recording in BIAB is fine.
Any of you wizzards have any ideas.???
Thanks
Walt




Walt - what exactly is the process you would like to do in Audacity that you can't do inside of a PG product? There's very little left that can't be done inside of PTPA or RealBand with the cornucopia of freeware VST audio plugins available on the internet.

Freeware in this case does not mean feature limited.

I find Audacity to be terribly frustrating. The lack of latency handling alone for multi-tracking (at least with relative simplicity) is enough to steer clear of it.

If it's all you have access to, as others have pointed out, save up $50 or so and buy PTPA, or Goldwave, or N-Track, etc.

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Scott,
The only thing I want to do is, simple recording, and be able to edit the recording and add a few effects like reverb.
I know I can record in BIAB, I never tried it in RT or RB, really, I'm just getting to know a few of the features of RB and RT. I'll give it try, maybe I'll find it more usefull that Aud.???
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I'm just getting to know a few of the features of RB and RT. I'll give it try, maybe I'll find it more usefull that Aud.???
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Without a doubt you'll find it more useful. Much easier (in my opinion) than to do the same in Audacity.

PT and RB are bonafide audio recording programs as much as midi. Audacity is audio only, and it has a convoluted logic compared to many other audio recording applications.

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Glad it worked out Walt. Having used PT since the mid-90s, and now RB since it joined BIAB in the package, I certainly find the PG stuff more user friendly than audacity. I know you've been around the Forum for a while.
If you have BIAB 2010 or better, then it's way to your advantage to get to know RB. RB and PT our of course similar except that RB can import directly from BIAB as well as generate or regenerate all BIAB tracks inside of RealBand. I'd say that if you don't have a favourite music software for recording then RealBand would be an ideal place to start . . . and even better if you have BIAB for the interaction pluses.

I ramble. There's a whole lot more that you will hear about from the others. You just have to choose one.

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