BOB,
I WAS ON THE ROAD TODAY AND THEREFORE THE TARDINESS IN RESPONDING. I’LL TRY TO ADDRESS YOUR THOUGHTS BY INTERSPERSING REPLIES BELOW:

This is a contradictory statement but I'm trying to figure out what you're trying to say. You mean as far as playing Biab midi tracks is concerned you don't need your Kurz, you're ok with using the Forte DXi for sound?

NO. THAT IS NOT WHAT I MEANT. I DON’T HAVE ANY OTHER KEYBOARD SO I AM LIMITED TO THE KURZ AT THE MOMENT. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO USE THE FORTE DXI FOR SOUND.

That's one thing and the simplest way to go. When you talked to support and you installed the Forte, you probably have that set up within Biab and are using it now for sound?

WELL, THEY TOLD ME THAT I NEEDED ASIO4ALL AND COYOTE FORTE, AND THEY HELPED ME SET IT UP. THE REASON THEY SAID I NEEDED TO WAS BECAUSE OF A LAG BETWEEN THE TIME I HIT A KEY ON THE KURZ AND THE TIME IT WAS HEARD IN BIAB.

When you say you just need to be able to use your Kurz, use it for what? You mean you want to be able to play along with Biab or do you want to record what you play into Biab?

I NEED TO BE ABLE TO RECORD MY MELODIES AND SONGS INTO BIAB. I DO NOT REALLY CARE ABOUT PLAYING ALONG WITH BIAB. SORRY FOR NOT BEING PRECISE.

Those are two very different functions. One only requires you to plug the audio outputs from the Kurz into your sound system and you can play along as much as you want, your Kurz has nothing to do with your computer in that case, it's like playing along with any record you might have. If you actually want to record what you play into your computer through Biab, then you need midi cables and a whole lesson about how to set that up.

I HAVE THE MIDI CABLES AND IN THE PAST RECORDED A GOOD MANY SONGS INTO BIAB. THEN I GOT WINDOWS 7 I HAD A DELAY OR LATENCY PROBLEM. THE THINKING BY THE BRAINS AT BIAB WAS THAT THE DELAY OR LATENCY WAS CAUSED BY THE UPGRADE TO WINDOWS 7. THEREFORE, WE PUT ASIO4ALL AND COYOTE FORTE ON AND IT BEGAN WORKING AGAIN.

Here's a confusing part for you. Your Kurz is two things, a synthesizer and a keyboard controller. The keyboard controls the built in synth inside the K2600. In the menus inside the Kurz you can bypass the internal synth and just use the physical keyboard to control a different external synth ie the Forte synth inside your computer via a midi cable. That means you're not using any of the Kurz sounds, only the Forte's sounds, you can play it or record it. That scenario is where the latency problem comes in. There's a built in delay when you try to use an external keyboard to control a software synth inside your computer. ASIO allows you to adjust that latency down low enough that you don't notice it. However, (remember I said this gets confusing?)there is no latency when you use an external hardware synth like your Kurz so then ASIO or no ASIO is completely irrelevant.

BOB, YOU SEEM TO KNOW A BIT ABOUT THE KURZ. I JUST PUT THE TWO MANUALS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND MEASURED THEM; THEY ARE 2 ½ INCHES THICK. THEY ARE CHOCK FULL OF SUCH MUMBO-JUMBO AS THIS: THE IMPUT INTO EFFECT C IS CONTROLLED BY 2 PARAMETERS NAMED A/B ->* AND */DRY ->C WHERE A, B, AND C CORRESPOND TO THE NAMES OF EFFECTS A, B, AND C. THE FIRST PARAMETER MIXES EFFECT A AND B INTO A TEMPORARY BUFFER REPRESENTED BY THE SYMBOL “*”. BOB, I DID NOT SEARCH FOR THIS. IT WAS ON THE PAGE OF ONE OF THE MANUALS WHEN I OPENED IT. THERE IS NO HOPE FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THIS STUFF.

You said you know very little about this stuff and you may not be too excited about learning it either. If you can live without doing anything at all with your Kurz and just play Biab inside your computer then you've got your Forte and you're done but, and this is a big but, as soon as you want to hook up your Kurz in any way with your PC, it's school time and that's just the way it is. Time to open the books and start reading about basic midi, midi channels, different modes in your Kurz, msb/lsb, patch maps and how to hook up the midi cables and the audio cables.

I DON’T KNOW HOW I EVER GOT THE KURZ TO WORK WITH BIAB AND THE MIDI CABLES. BUT IT DID. AND, THEN IT DID AGAIN AFTER INSTALLATION OF ASIO AND FORTE. I BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE WAY BACK THERE AT BIAB HELP (ON THE PHONE WITH ME AND MY LOCAL COMPUTER GURU [BY NOT A MUSIC GUY]) SIAD THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE KURZ SOUNDS AND INSTRUMENTS TO PLAY IN BIAB. HECK, I DIDN’T CARE! I COULD PLAY A SONG INTO BIAB AND END UP WITH A BAND AROUND IT.

THEN, THE OTHER DAY, I GET THESE WEIRD SOUNDS FROM BIAB AND REALIZE THAT THEY ARE KURZ INSTRUMENTS. WHOA!
JUST BEFORE THIS MY KURZ WOULD NOT TURN ON. I WENT TO THE YAHOO KURZ GROUP AND INQUIRED. THEY SAID THE FUSE MIGHT HAVE BEEN BLOWN. I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO FIND IT, INSPECT IT AND NOT FIND IT DAMAGED, REINSTALL IT, AND WHOOPEE!, THE KEYBOARD WORKED AGAIN. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS EVENT IS THE CULPRIT BEHIND ALL OF THIS? I HAVE GONE BACK TO THE YAHOO KURZ GROUP, BUT NOBODY HAS ANSWERED. I HAVE QUERIED THEM IN THE PAST ABOUT KURZ WITH BIAB QUESTIONS. THERE IS HARDLY EVER AN ANSWER, AND I SUSPECT THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE ARE USING A KURZ WITH BIAB.

Oh yeah, Bob's mantra that people have read here for years now. Midi is not audio, audio is not midi. That's one of the first things new people get confused about when they try to use an external keyboard/synth like yours, they think the audio is going through the midi cables. It's not.

WELL, AT LEAST I DID NOT THINK THAT. I THOUGHT THAT I WAS JUST USING THE KURZ TO TRIGGER THE SOUNDS WITHIN BIAB.
DOES ANY OF THIS HELP ENOUGH TO POSSIBLY DIRECT ME TO A SOLUTION? IF NOT, I’LL BE GLAD TO TRY AGAIN. MY GREATEST FEAR IS THAT SOMETHING ON THE KURZ CHANGED AND THAT BEAST IS BEYOND MY KEN.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO REPLY.

JERRY KROUSE

Bob