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Not sure how to explain this: I set up a 24 bar tune to play 40 choruses. After playing through all the chorus, the song stops and begins again (expected behavior) but there is no longer any sound (not expected behavior). I can see the cursor moving through the chord sheet, but there is no sound. Here's the file: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B2zYcxz...Vk&hl=en_USThanks, Dana
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Hi Dana,
I have BIAB for PC. Thank you for the file to work with, that helped a great deal. I didn't have time to listen to 40 choruses as it would have taken nearly half an hour. I did, however, set the number of choruses to 2 and then let the song play. It worked fine for me.
As an experiment, can I suggest that you try setting the song to 2 or 3 and see if the behavior is identical to 40. It might not be. I'm curious to know.
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Noel
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Thanks for checking it out Noel. I did set the song to 2 choruses and it seemed to work fine for me. So, I guess the next step for me is to determine which number of choruses causes the behavior.
I practice improvising a lot, hence the 40 choruses.
Thank you for your suggestion.
Cheers,
Dana
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Hi Dana,
Your reply seems to be pointing towards a theory that I had.
My theory is that maybe BIAB has been programmed to play 40 times through the choruses. If one counts the first chorus as "1", then the last chorus would be 39 (and not 40). Having 40 chorus, then, might confuse the program. Who knows?! I wonder if you can get 39 choruses and then the repeat happening without any problem.
All the best,
Noel
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Hi Noel,
This morning I set the song to 20 choruses. 19 choruses played fine.
On the 20th chorus the drum pattern changed from a full drum set pattern to brushes only starting in bar 25 to the end of the song. The song ended and began again but like before, the cursor would move across the bars but no sound could be heard.
Just an FYI. The original tune (Bluesette) is 24 bars. In order to practice for long periods I put two choruses into the chord sheet (48 bars). I find it interesting that BIAB knew to change the drum pattern on the last pass at measure 25 since technically that would be the last chorus.
I'll try deleting measures 25 to 48 and see what happens. Stay tuned...
Last edited by dsw67; 07/14/11 06:33 AM.
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Hi Dana,
Thank you for the update. That is indeed curious.
I'd pass this information along to Support and send them teh URL for this thread so they can read the comments. Seems to me that someone has left the wrong numeral in some kind of programming loop. I'm pretty sure it's not the sort of thing the too many people would test for and thus your discovery would be valuable to PG Music.
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Noel
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Thanks Noel,
On another topic, I checked out your songs. Really nice stuff! I'd be curious to know your method for putting them together. Are you using a DAW? If so, which one?
Thanks,
Dana
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Hi Dana, Thank you for taking time to hear some of my work. Some of what you listened to would have been professional demos and some would have been BIAB. These days what I do is to assemble a backing track in BIAB and then get a vocalist (Jason Wyatt, Nashville) to overdub the backing. He sends me his vocals and I add them to the mix. He sounds much better than I do! Anyway... enough of that  This is how I set about creating a song. USING BIAB1. Find a style I like. 2. Layout a chord progression. Sometimes I load in the demo song for the style and use the chords as a starting point for developing my accompaniment. If I do choose to load in a demo song, the a number of the chords will usually change. Since a chord progression is not copyrighted, though, it's possible to use the PG Music created progressions if you wish.3. Listen to the chord progression over and over (much like your 40 choruses!) until phrases of words start to come to mind. 4. When I get a phrase that I like, I start developing lyrics. 5. Once lyrics are mostly done, I start working on a melody against the chord progression. At this point, I often try a number of different keys to see which one gives me the best feel. (I love BIAB's transposing ease!) 6. Once the melody is well on the way and the lyrics are starting to cement, I use Notation Editor to notate the melody and to add note-based lyrics to the music. 7. Now I play around with shots and holds and see if I can polish up the overall sound of the arrangement. By the way, every few changes of the song, I create a newer version of the song. For example, my song will start out as SongTitle 1.SGU. By the time I reach #7 above, I'm usually up to around SongTitle 15.MGU8. When I get something happening that I like, I move the BIAB file into Realband. USING REALBAND9. In RB, I play around with adding different Realtracks and look for RTs that I might be able to use as fillers in the arrangement. 10. I also do a couple of different tracks of generations of some of the RTs so that I can cut and paste sections to get an overall single, compiled track that works just the way I'd like it to. 11. When I'm happy with all the raw building material that I have in RB, I move my song as WAV files to Reaper (by Cockos). I always set reverb to off and center all tracks before the move. USING REPEARI have found Reaper a terrific DAW. It had a bit of a learning curve associated with it but there is terrific documentation out there on this DAW that really helps understand it. I particularly like the auto-crossfade that happens simply by cutting and pasting. I've also found the tuning plugin excellent.12. In Reaper I work on the mix (panning, reverb, compression, etc.), record vocals and apply mastering. Hope this gives you some ideas BIAB, RB and Reaper and all vital parts of my songwriting workflow. All the best, Noel
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Wow, that's great. Thanks for sharing this information. It helps!
Cheers from Boston,
Dana
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