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I think it cost me $149 to upgrade from 2010 to 2011, and that included a 160GB (?) USB drive. That's as reasonable an upgrade price as one could expect, especially considering the player's time and the programming to do all those amazing realtracks!
I skipped the 2011.5 upgrade, because none of the new realtracks are a "must have" at the moment. I'll take another look when 2012 appears. Maybe it will be $149 and maybe it won't (I hope so!).
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I think MUS has a really good point. This is a problem that needs to be adressed because the holds are not altogether brilliant, they have to be edited to get something pro. Rewire was , nearly half heartedly promised a few years ago & still no sign of it. There are a lot of ways that BIAB is a really good product but its missing the final push to be a really professional product. Just my 2 cents
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they have to be edited to get something pro
How much work do you think is involved for a Pro Band to go into the studio and crank out a Pro album of 10 songs?Months of hard work and lots of edits.Jeesh!
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they have to be edited to get something pro
How much work do you think is involved for a Pro Band to go into the studio and crank out a Pro album of 10 songs?Months of hard work and lots of edits.Jeesh!
That's irrelevant to what BIAB purports to do. The holds and pushes are still not good enough, however many updates have come out.
I think BIAB is great and some styles work superbly well - as long as you stay clear of holds and pushes, and that does limit the songs you can do. I'm just saying that there comes a limit to the number of new Real Tracks you can buy, which then also need their holds and pushes fixing.
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I find the shots to be fine. I tested a lot of them. I do find some of the holds to sound a little out of context. In RB I can tame them buy lowering the volume of the holds.I can't seem to find the folder that has the shots & holds wma files.I was going to try and edit the volumes a bit to see if it helped in BIAB.
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Months of hard work and lots of edits.Jeesh!
I will hold off on the "Jeesh" because the guy making the post may play with his BIAB once a month or less and this the money spent on the upgrade would not be of the same value to him as you. I don't know his story, and every user will find a different amount of utility for any product. I love my iPad. Could I do without it. Absolutely. I have 3 laptops. Was it worth $500? Not really since I don't use it INSTEAD of my laptop. If was to replace my laptops, then the dynamic changes and the answer to that last question would be "Yes it is."
This could be a guy who has never played in public and doesn't play music to make money. If that is the case, I would understand his logic.
Apples and apples....
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I upgrade twice a year without hesitation. (I'm a play at homer these days) The cost is generally $149.00 + $99.00 = $248.00 per year, which equates to less than $0.70 per day.
It's the best five dollar a week investment ever.
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Keith
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I do find some of the holds to sound a little out of context.
For those who are not aware of this option, there's a setting under Opt | Preferences | Arrange that allows shots and holds to be tamed a bit. If they're too loud, check that the "Boost" setting is set to zero as shown below.
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Just 3 days left for Specials pricing.
What are the chances that will be extended to 15 august 2011?
anyone taking bets. 
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I do find some of the holds to sound a little out of context.
For those who are not aware of this option, there's a setting under Opt | Preferences | Arrange that allows shots and holds to be tamed a bit. If they're too loud, check that the "Boost" setting is set to zero as shown below.
Good find Noel, I didn't know about that. Mine is set to default of 5 think I will lower it. Just checked realband and that arrage option isn't there, I take it the holds are not boosted in realband therefore no need for the arrange option.
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I do find some of the holds to sound a little out of context.
For those who are not aware of this option, there's a setting under Opt | Preferences | Arrange that allows shots and holds to be tamed a bit. If they're too loud, check that the "Boost" setting is set to zero as shown below.
Well dang that sure helps!
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1. Can you put a negative number in there?
2. Will it work?
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1. Can you put a negative number in there?
2. Will it work?
Yes
==== EDIT =======
Oops... I'm wrong there. Those settings in Prefs-Arrangement are just for MIDI shots, holds velocities.
The only way to change the holds/shots volumes is by the method below (Soloist-Generate and Play - Edit - More dialog)
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Last edited by PeterGannon; 07/29/11 01:27 PM.
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You can also edit an individual real tracks holds and shots volume. Main menu -soloist -Generate and Play a soloist- edit button -> more button and then adjust the holds Video showing it: http://screencast.com/t/jppByEaRjxNote that if you do that, it will stick until we update the files default.sol and rtextra.bin, which we do frequently.
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Main menu -soloist -select soloist- edit - more and then adjust the holds
Peter,
I don't seem to be able to follow the path. Could you be more specific please?
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I think the path is:
soloist/generate & play a solo( or push the S button)/choose a solo/edit/more.
If one was to do a lot of changing are you saying all the changes would be wiped out at some point?
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I haven't upgraded since 2009. The RealTracks in 2010 weren't what I really needed most.
I see how 2011 version has really changed things, with a lot of new features and some really great RTs, But I also agree that missing one upgrade shouldn't put you in the lowest catagory.
I've also been a BIAB use since the Atari ST, crossed over to the PC and haven't kept up with all the updates.
I went from an early version to 2008 and then 2009.
I know the 2011 is much better, because I can here it in the songs that people are posting.
They sound much better. But I just don't have the money.
I know they give a lot, but it still is very expensive for a first time buyer. And by missing one upgrade puts you in the same place as someone who hasn't upgraded for 5 years or more isn't right to me.
Please don't get me wrong. I love this program and would love to have the latest version, But I also love my home Heating Oil. And they have no loyalty to anyone ever.
I'll be waiting for the Christmas sale.
Wayne,
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