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Don't worry about it. I reread the posts at the time, because sometimes I do put my keyboard in my mouth.
Everybody came here to help and things started getting confusing and all of a sudden tensions just got high. Not everyone but some of us, me included were not hearing what people were saying and also not clearly saying what they meant.
I'm fine, I just want to see if we can set a record for the longest thread here..lol
Wayne,
I removed something that I posted after I realized it was not funny.
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Oh man, Honey Mustard and hot..Ummmmmmm....sounding like Andy Griffith.
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The thought of some of us old farts in the same room
Hey, I resemble that remark! 
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I know I really do resemble that remark...lol
I don't know how many of us are old farts, but I know I am and I'm stubborn too.
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Here is a tune i did back in 2002 when i was just learning this craft with 'puters. This one outta put a smile on your face Wayne! http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=133130&t=8050 I should redo that with what i have now. The story was i was hanging around over at Sony's Acid Planet, and one of the other old coots said we should have a contest and everyone write and record a song with the how many old farts does it take to Rock and roll. This was my entry
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Oh wow, John, you over in the Asheville area? The most beautiful place in the USA?
Yes. Kind of funny that we are both attracted to the places I lived. Bar Harbor and the Asheville area.Came here cause it reminds me of Maine without all the snow.
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Eat crow?? Oh no, don't tell my lady. She rescued a baby crow that fell out of her palm tree a few years ago, it looked like it just hatched no feathers at all. She nursed it along with a baby dropper, when his legs were strong enough she put him in a fake tree she has in her front room with a big bay window so he could see all the other birds. This was a big deal for her because she had to keep the door closed to that room and put sheets and towels down so he wouldn't mess all over the place. She then trained him over a couple weeks how to fly in the room until he could circle around and land in the tree or on her head without crashing then took him outside. She had him in the open in her front lawn for several hours at a time. He didn't want to fly for a few days then suddenly just took off and sat on the telephone pole looking at her and then flew back to her. She took him outside a couple more days and he wouldn't fly then one day he took off across the street to a big leafy tree, disappeared inside it and that was it. She's said she ocassionally see's a crow sitting on her lawn for a few minutes looking in the window and we suspect it's him but who knows? There's lots of crows in the neighborhood.
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So Bob, what is this yer Raven about?
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Bob, the only question I would have if it was me is "How do I feed a crow?" I mean, Purina Crow Chow? How did she find out how to nurse it to health, which she obviously successfully did if it flew away and still visits. Great story that it remembers where the crow nurse lives.
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I went to grade school for 8 years were we were taught by Crows.
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Just to illustrate how poor my vision is, I thought the post said She rescued a baby cow that fell out of a tree.
So I was just stting here wondering, how the heck did the cow get up in the tree?
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Since I can't edit the original, let me sum things up.
I started to experiment with Real Band after using BIAB for a few months. I had someone helping me via remote connection to my computer. Things went well while he was connected. When he disconnected, I tried to add real time audio to an empty track. That is where the problems started. The tracks would show to be recorded, but there was no wave data showing. Through my experimenting, many suggestions offered, and a great deal of (quite likely unneccesary) frustration fueled venting, I finally tried one last thing, which was moving my M-Audio MIDI interface connection from my USB hub to a USB port on the computer and restarting. As a result of moving to a new USB port, the restart also redetected the interface, and reloaded the existing drivers for it. Started Real Band again, and it worked. I have not been up there yet today, but will go up later and move it BACK to the hub and see of it was really the reconnection to a direct USB port that resolved it or power cycling the computer. I really suspect it is a combination of the two, but if it works when I plug it back into the hub, then it was the power cycle.
I will keep you posted.
I'll go up right after this next helping of crow....
Still haven't heard back about the testing of the HUB. It's been 16 hours since you started on that Crow. It was pretty big though.
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I was taught by Mrs Pool. She was right out of the Black and White Bowery Boys movies.
She used to hit me with the ruler and everything. She older than dirt and mean.
I never went home without a note from her to my mother.
She was an old crow. (or bat)
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I went to Catholic School and we called the nuns Crows. I thought that was sort of a regional thing until I heard it said on the Blues Brother's movie.I laughed my butt off. In all respect they were the greatest teachers.
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Here the nuns were called Penguins.
I plugged back into the hub, and the key here will be, AND AFTER A POWER CYCLE, everything worked fine through the hub. I did put it back into a port though just to avoid any power brownouts in the future.
A1 is particularly good on crow....
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Now that I think of it you're right Eddie. In the Blues Brother's movie they called them Penguins as well not Crows.
So it was drivers after all.
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So it was drivers after all.
Actually, it was not the drivers. The drivers have not been touched through all of this.
The M-Audio MIDI interface needed to be "reset" and when I moved it to a hard port on the PC rather than a remote port on the hub, Windows then redetected the interface and that would "reset" it, and I keep putting that in quotes because that is really not right term, but it is close enough. When I moved it back to the hub to test it, the computer briefly did the same redetection as when I went the other way. And then after testing when I put it back into the computer's hard USB port it redetected yet again. It was the power cycles that did the trick. The interface needed to be (again for lack of a better term) powered off and back on. And since it pulls power from a USB port, pulling the USB cable, counting to 5, and plugging back in would do the same as powering the computer off. That computer gets restarted so seldom that if there is an issue with the USB bus at that level (and there was) a restart is the only thing that will fix it.
When you move something from port to port, there is a subtle change in the hardware bus address that the computer has to make. Similar to when you would pull all your USB cables out to take the cover off the computer and vacuum the dust out of it... if you plug them back in to the same ports, you will see nothing. If you get two of them switched, Windows will pause and say "Oh, I have your drivers already but you moved to the next house."
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That's what happened when we replaced our photo printer. Installed it in the same port the old was plugged into and then the Webcam stopped working. By the time we were finished it was like musical USB ports they all moved over by one until they all worked.
This was my wife's machine and all 6 USB ports are being Used.
What a reboot. all the handshaking, it's like a town meeting in that box.
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Some devices actually re-install the drivers if they get moved to another port. Not a good thing as you can end up with 6 of the same drivers installed. The USB-to-MIDI adapters were notorious for this for a long time. One brand in particular.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Bob, the only question I would have if it was me is "How do I feed a crow?" I mean, Purina Crow Chow? How did she find out how to nurse it to health, which she obviously successfully did if it flew away and still visits. Great story that it remembers where the crow nurse lives.
She basically threw the dice and guessed. She used a little eye dropper and fed him pureed baby food and water separately and as he got bigger she fed him kitchen leftovers and trail mix. We've all seen crows, the adults eat anything.
She's rescued a few birds before but this was the only crow. Sadly most of them die shortly after falling out of a tree but she's saved 3 or 4 maybe.
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