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Hallo, ich bin neu hier und habe eine Frage zu BIAB und Windows 7.
Ich arbeite unter XP schon jahrelang mit BIAB ohne Probleme. Nun musste ich umsteigen auf Windows 7.
Die Real-Styles funktionieren, aber nicht die Midi-Styles. Es kommen nur "space" Klänge. Synty-Klänge.
Ich habe zwei Rechner neu mit WIn 7 und auf beiden läuft es so.
Die Real-Styles mit Midi-Teilen, hören sich dann in den jeweiligen Bereichen genauso an.
Liegt es an der Soundkarte oder fehlt mir ein Update?
Ich benutze das 2009 UltraPak - BIAB.
Ich würde mich auf eine schnelle Antwort sehr freuen, da ich das Programm für meine Band benötige.
Vielen Dank.
LG Thorsten
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Das liegt wohl am verwendeten Synth bzw. an der Soundkarte. Was wurde denn verwendet? Der VST ist nicht kompatibel zu einem 64 Bit Betriebssystem, wie es häufig mit Windows 7 ausgeliefert wird. Zur Diagnose könnten also verschiedene Synths wie Wavetable oder Coyote etc. ausprobiert werden.
Willkommen im Forum
Martin
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Hallo und danke für die schnelle Antwort. Ja auf beiden Rechnern ist eine 64bit-Version.
Kann ich über eine externe Soundkarte bei meinem Laptob weiter kommen?
Was ist Wavetable oder Coyote? Ich nehme an eine Software, die VST unterstützt. Funktioniert diese denn bei einem 64 bit System?
Ich würde mich nochmals freuen eine Info zu erhalten. Danke.
VG Thorsten
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Hallo Martin,
funktioniert BIAB generell nicht unter 64 bit Systemen? Was kann ich tun, damit das läuft?
Ich bitte kurz um Info.
Danke und Gruß
Thorsten
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Hallo Thorsten,
BIAB funktioniert wunderbar unter 64 Bit, nur der im Paket enthaltene kostenlose Roland VSC funktioniert nur unter 32 Bit, da der von Roland nicht weiter entwickelt wird. Vermutlich hast Du den bei der Installation mit angeklickt und als Software Synth für die Midi-Ausgabe gewählt.
Für die Midi-Ausgabe unter 64 Bit musst Du entweder den normalen Microsoft MS Wavetable nehmen (der Standard-Windows Midi-Synth) oder den ebenfalls bei der Installation angebotenen CoyoteWT. Letzter hat gegenüber dem Windows Wavetable den Vorteil, das das schnelle Direct-Rendering funktioniert.
Eine dritte Option wäre es, einen Midi-Synth von Drittanbietern wie Forte, NI, usw. einzusetzen. Die klingen besser, kosten dann aber extra.
Ralf
Last edited by ralfboe; 08/31/11 05:48 AM.
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Thorsten, BiaB funktioniert als 32 Bit Anwendung perfekt auf einem 64 Bit System. In meinem obigen Beitrag hätte es 'VSC' anstelle von 'VST' heißen müssen. Der Virtuelle Sound Canvas (VSC) von Roland ist *nicht* zu einem 64 Bit System kompatibel. BiaB wird mit dem Coyote Wavetable ausgeliefert; der ist 64 Bit kompatibel und erzeugt in der Regel gute Resultate. Bei der Installation von BiaB 2011.5 wird man danach gefragt, ob man den auch installieren will. Ggf. geht das auch nachträglich - einfach ausprobieren und anschließend in den Midi Einstellungen danach suchen. Es sollte dann funktionieren. Wenn es Probleme gibt, einfach hier posten ... Die Fa. Coyote bietet kommerziell ein etwas besser klingendes VST-Instrument an, das über PGMusic -> hier bezogen werden kann. Viel Glück
Martin
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Vielleicht liegt es an den abgespeckten Soundkarten. Dort kann ich nirgends etwas von MIDI lesen.
Unter BIAB wird nur GS Wavetable gefunden. Leider kommen nur seltsame Klänge heraus. Ich denke, dass ich erst einmal eine externe Soundkarte probiere. Ich habe den Coyote DXI installiert, aber der wird von BIAB nicht gefunden. Alles sehr merkwürdig.
Kann mir jemand eine gute aber günstige externe Soundkarte empfehlen?
Vielen Dank
Thorsten
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Sorry,
ich habe jetzt über BIAB doch die Coyote Forte installiert. Es funktioniert. Allerdings ist diese Version nur eine 30 Tage Version. Gibt es einen Link zu einer Free-Version. Bei meiner BIAB von 2009 ist kein Coyote WT dabei.
Bitte kurz mitteilen. Danke für eure Mühen.
Beste Grüße
Thorsten
Last edited by 52ndstreet; 08/31/11 09:30 AM.
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Danke für die Info.
Ich werde auf BIAB 2011 updaten, da ich sonst 40Doller für Forte DXi bezahlen muss. Habe ich dann bei dem Update zu 2011 den Coyote Wavetable dabei?
Wäre nochmals dankbar für eine Info.
VG Thorsten
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Ein Upgrade auf BiaB 2011.5 ist absolut sinnvoll. Die neueren BiaB Versionen werden mit dem Coyote Wavetable ausgeliefert. Forte DXi klingt durchaus besser - für einen Vergleich gibt's ja dessen Trial Version. Die Qualität von on-board, mitgelieferten und kostenpflichtigen Klangerzeugern kann etwa folgendermaßen eingeordnet werden -> Microsoft GS Wavetable - Coyote WT - Forte DXi.
Martin
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Forte DXI ist aber auch bei BIAB 2011 nur als 30-Tage-Demo dabei.
Ralf
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Vielen Dank an Euch,
für die nette Hilfe. Ich komme jetzt weiter und werde dann noch auf BIAB 2011 aufrüsten.
Viele Grüße
Thorsten
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