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Guys, if we really love this company as much as we all say we do, let's show our support by doing everything we can to avoid alienating ANY potential customers




Hmmm.... what is likely to alienate customers more? Allowing musicians (who are deeply affected by this turn of events on both a tactile and emotional level and are deeply emotionally attached to a company who has been supplying our business with quality instruments since before many of us were born) the latitude to express our opinion, or telling those customers "If we don't like what you say we will throw you out of the sandbox?"

The Constitution of my country allows me the right to state my opinion if I don't cross a line and say something bad about anybody's mama. It also allows me to own a gun to protect myself, to vote for my leadership, etc..... If those rights do not cross northern borders, so be it, but with a large American potential customer base, which way is more likely to win friends and influence people? That eye on the business model seems to indicate a little more relaxed posture on forum content would be prudent. Nobody here went off on a wild rant full of expletives and n-bombs. And the discussion has been aimed at what most of us perceive to be wrongdoing against another company we love.

I recommend this product to everybody who will stand still long enough to listen to an example of the end result. I can tell you I have sold at least 4 units for PG Music and will continue to promote it heavily. I myself have just had it since spring. The last song I posted, Snowball's Chance In Hell, is 100% Real Band. The most common comment when I say that is "No way. Even the solos and those fiddle parts that come and go?"

And if you think about what is at the root here, a hard drive is less of an instrument than what Gibson makes, so at the core level, discussion of BIAB is about computer programs. Programs that can be used to make music, for sure, but the discussion is really not about "music".

That is a stretch, but I think it makes my point.

I add my thanks to the moderators who are allowing this discussion to continue.

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Eddie,

I respectfully suggest that you read the article I cited earlier in its entirety; but in particular the following: "The anti-colonialist believes that since the rich have prospered at the expense of others, their wealth doesn't really belong to them; therefore whatever can be extracted from them is automatically just."




That redirection would make more sense if I didn't agree with you....

I know the sun is hot and the sky is blue.

The USA is in worse shape than in 1929 but nobody wants to admit that we are in a depression worse than we were then. At my age, I was raised by depression era parents and the stories I heard were horrifying. How families couldn't afford to buy food, basic living staples.....

Just like in 2011.

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I don't know what the economy is like in the land of PG Music where medical care is provided for everybody and women who choose to have litters of children with no father figure receive "Mother's Aid".




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_birth_rate

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2054rank.html

The numbers are interesting eh?

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Hmmm.... what is likely to alienate customers more? Allowing musicians (who are deeply affected by this turn of events on both a tactile and emotional level and are deeply emotionally attached to a company who has been supplying our business with quality instruments since before many of us were born) the latitude to express our opinion, or telling those customers "If we don't like what you say we will throw you out of the sandbox?"




I'm a strong advocate of freedom of speech, but I'm also an advocate of responsible speech.

A person is free to express every strong opinion he has at his daughter's wedding reception, but the family is still likely to be ticked if it causes a family turmoil and changes focus from the wedding to the argument.

It costs PGMusic money to provide this forum. They don't charge us for the access. I doubt that they budget the funds just so we can post our opinions. The forum is so potential customers can see how existing customers use and enjoy the product. The difference between responsible speech and irresponsible speech is that Responsible speech does not change the focus from their product to our opinions.


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The Constitution of my country allows me the right to state my opinion if I don't cross a line and say something bad about anybody's mama. It also allows me to own a gun to protect myself, to vote for my leadership, etc..... If those rights do not cross northern borders, so be it, but with a large American potential customer base, which way is more likely to win friends and influence people? That eye on the business model seems to indicate a little more relaxed posture on forum content would be prudent. Nobody here went off on a wild rant full of expletives and n-bombs. And the discussion has been aimed at what most of us perceive to be wrongdoing against another company we love.




it isn't a matter of rights crossing the border... even here in the USA federally guaranteed personal rights don't override the rights of private companies to control the content of public media that they pay to provide freely to the public.

There is a point where rights and entitlement get blurry, and I think we're pretty close.

For businesses, allowing strong opinions to be associated with their product is generally a lose-lose situation because for any given strong opinion, about half the people seeing it will be offended by it. It may make a customer feel good to vent, but after he's wiped the mud from his feet and walked away feeling clean, the mud still remains on the website to make subsequent visitors feel uncomfortable.

Discomfort and sales are not compatible. Sales are all about making people feel comfortable and excited in a good way. Encouraging sales is the goal of this web site. Talking about how the country is going down the tubes is detrimental to the goals of this forum.

But that's just my opinion. Not everyone may see it that way.

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I'd jump in with both feet but fear the pain.

I'm laughing at the free health care thing.

Taxes, we pay for it.

The Federal Gov't says we need to conform to a policy. The provincial gov't is responsible for paying for it.

British Columbia. Note the first word. They just had a tax referendum and now they have a huge problem. The Value added tax (it's 12% here), just got voted out. Now they have to pay the doctors with farmed salmon cooked on a cedar shake.

Except for Dr. Gannon who's busy programming in 6 sharps to make some guy happy. (I think)


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Our "well informed" electorate was conned by a previous premier that was a failure as a premier (people have short political memories).

There are many crying about taxes being too high, and they're first ones to bitch when the potholes in the road don't get fixed. Life doesn't seem to be a free lunch. Democracy has it's own set of weaknesses.

We called it the HST, and it was 12 percent, and it wasn't really a problem in day to day life. Every invoice I sent out for engineering services had the 12% added on, and not one client (over 150 invoices) complained about the tax. Now the current gov't will have to scramble to contain the deficit - or introduce another tax.

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The Federal Gov't says we need to conform to a policy. The provincial gov't is responsible for paying for it.




Ah, yes, the fabulous and highly desirable "unfunded mandate." We have those, too.


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