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No BUT there are work arounds for that.


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John, we both agree on the BUT. Perhaps I was being a bit optimistic this morning. It is a record breaking beautiful morning in Chicago.

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Thanks again for the answers! But er... it sounds a bit complicated. I mean, I fully understand what you are saying, but it's a pity you can't place chord changes where you want them, period.

You also say "why you need to biggest package so you have more options of hearing something which fits with what you want" and I was already thinking about that: since I am used to have total control over everything, I wonder if using BiaB won't be come a tedious chore for me because I have to listen to hundreds of styles and RealTracks just to find the one that 'by accident' has the rhythm or whatever I am looking for... This already bothers me with addons like EZ-Drummer, where I usually quickly pick a pattern and edit it to my liking. But 'editing to my liking' isn't really possible with RealTracks. The idea of having to load and audition tons of styles and tracks before I find one that fits, doesn't sound very appealing...

Another thing that I think could bother me is (as far as I can understand) that when I DO find a RealTrack that has the right groove and everything, it might not have the right SOUND I like... When I listen to various demo's, I hear different drums and different basses etc. all the time. What if a certain RealTracks has the SOUND I like but not the groove? And what if I would like to combine various things and wind up with various sounds all over the place...?

Ah, you know what, maybe I should indeed simply order the UltraPlusPAK and see what I can do with it. If the money back guarantee works as advertised, there is nothing to lose, really. Still, spending 469 bucks, even when I can get them back, isn't something I do very easily...

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...I am used to have total control over everything,




You have got a good handle on it.

If you want:

the bass player to vamp a specific pattern, or,
the guitarist to play a first inversion on that bar with E in the Bass rather than a C note, and then do that cool James Brown chaka-chaka rhythm,

or you simply need the dummer to do a "da da da doe da da" coming out of the chorus and for god sakes why won't the horn players play in unison when you want them to.

Then you need your own band.

On the other hand, if you can settle for "..hey that sounds cool, I can work with that" and you are creative in arranging and editing in a DAW then BIAB may be the tool for you.

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3) There is the ability to "push" a chord to play 1/8 or 1/16 ahead of the beat.






Sorry for "doubling" my thread.

I'll be back on this topic also.

I also find this a bit frustrating.

There's a way you can push (but only backwards) the chords.

Let's say you want to put a C chord in the first beat of measure 3.

If you write "^C" instead "C" in that first beat of meausre 3, it'll be played in the middle of beat 4 of measure 2 instead.

That's good, at least it's a workaround.

The problem is when you want that, plus a D chord (for instance) in the beggining of measure 3 also.

You have to choose between your C chord or D chord because there's room just for one.

If there was a way to push the chords forward (not only backwards), things would be a but better, but at least I don't know how to do it.

...how can you do that boys? any ideas?

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I think BIAB is perfect for laying down that bass, drums and midi piano for the basic of songs. ... but you will end up using a lot more of it! Here are a few samples of my stuff that may be slightly "more alternative".

Alchemy: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=620106&songID=10918376

Unfettered (in 5/4): http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=620106&songID=10897342

Movie in My Head: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=620106&songID=8775082

Rhonda: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=620106&songID=9294777 (a little off-key on this one!)

She Was Made to be Played: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=620106&songID=8111400

What is being done by me and what is being done by BIAB is documented in each song at the bottom of the lyrics.

Kevin

P.S. I have never, ever come even close to the 255 bar limit -- and I always "unfold" all of my songs and don't use repeats.

Last edited by Kemmrich; 10/09/11 08:14 AM.

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as others stated, you have a full 30 day warranty. You can even resell it after a few months or whatever, the license is transferable and virtually painless

you wait YEARS before buying a piece of software for 130 bucks and seeing for yourself? That's how you grow old...

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Thanks again for the answers! But er... it sounds a bit complicated. I mean, I fully understand what you are saying, but it's a pity you can't place chord changes where you want them, period.

You also say "why you need to biggest package so you have more options of hearing something which fits with what you want" and I was already thinking about that: since I am used to have total control over everything, I wonder if using BiaB won't be come a tedious chore for me because I have to listen to hundreds of styles and RealTracks just to find the one that 'by accident' has the rhythm or whatever I am looking for... This already bothers me with addons like EZ-Drummer, where I usually quickly pick a pattern and edit it to my liking. But 'editing to my liking' isn't really possible with RealTracks. The idea of having to load and audition tons of styles and tracks before I find one that fits, doesn't sound very appealing...

Another thing that I think could bother me is (as far as I can understand) that when I DO find a RealTrack that has the right groove and everything, it might not have the right SOUND I like... When I listen to various demo's, I hear different drums and different basses etc. all the time. What if a certain RealTracks has the SOUND I like but not the groove? And what if I would like to combine various things and wind up with various sounds all over the place...?

Ah, you know what, maybe I should indeed simply order the UltraPlusPAK and see what I can do with it. If the money back guarantee works as advertised, there is nothing to lose, really. Still, spending 469 bucks, even when I can get them back, isn't something I do very easily...




I think you are over thinking this thing . . . my advice is similar to the Nike slogan "Just Do It" and take the 30 days offered to give it a long test drive. If it is not everything you wanted ship it back with no questions from PG Music.

Best of Luck,

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EXCELLENT point Avatars!

If someone is looking at Biab to create exact covers of classic songs, that's not going to happen. Biab is too generic for that, Real Band however is a whole other thing. I've posted many descriptions of how you can do very cool stuff with RB, just search my username.

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