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#131411 10/17/11 08:11 PM
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Wall St. ...sorry been there, not interesting

Toronto... with the other 128 people who are going to see -5 soon...pass

Vancouver...rain for the next 12 months...pass

Key West...margaritaville...Can We All Go! pass the salt.


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Watch for the Green Flash!


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This one is hard to predict (aren't they all?).

It could fizzle or . . . remember the Viet Nam protests?

For the life of me I don't know what they're protesting here in Victoria (PG City). Bandwagon anybody?

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A recent economic article on the msn website started out with the line,
"Now that experts agree that the recession has ended..."

Didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

Probably the same experts who's fathers wrote "Dewey Defeats Truman" and the more recent "Mission Accomplished!" banner for George Bush.

Hopefully the latest movement can accomplish something meaningful without just serving as an excuse for senseless violence against the innocents.

There's lots that needs to be done and hopefully the nimrods on Capital Hill of both parties will wake up, get their heads out of their lobbyists back pockets and finally take their jobs seriously.

Working together they could get America back on it's feet and living the Dream instead of dreaming about how to make a living.

What a Christmas present that would be!!!!

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Never mind what any of it means.

We could have a Band in a Box and an Off Topic Forum every afternoon in Key West. Most of us have tried the other keys. LOL.

I really don't want to occupy anywhere, except if it's warm, has nice scenery, and there's no frozen toes, though I might play Popsicle Toes in 3 flats. Or 2 shakes of a dead lamb's tail. Which I recall as quick.


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Until they want a "do over," as in abolishing our Constitution, laws, and what morals we have left. Some of their "demands" are way out there. It will be interesting to say the least. They have also posted a "revised" version of Christopher Columbus' history and a few others.

But most agree on the money situation, so the train is slowly starting to leave the station. How much steam it picks up is the 64$ question, I suppose?

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Until they want a "do over," as in abolishing our Constitution, laws, and what morals we have left. Some of their "demands" are way out there. It will be interesting to say the least. They have also posted a "revised" version of Christopher Columbus' history and a few others.

But most agree on the money situation, so the train is slowly starting to leave the station. How much steam it picks up is the 64$ question, I suppose?

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Abolishing the constitution. It's started in many locations with denying these people the freedom to assemble.


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It's started in many locations with denying these people the freedom to assemble.




Assemble where, exactly? If it's public property fine but how about private property like say, your house?

They've completely blocked off your house, your driveway, the whole area yet you have a very important medical appointment that if you miss you might actually die. Do they have the right to assemble there?

What if they've set up their protest camp in front of a federal courthouse so people with legitimate legal business can't get in? Everybody knows how jammed up court schedules are and this has been on the calendar for months now. Maybe you're a plaintiff in the class action lawsuit against BP Oil and you're a witness secheduled for today. Do they have the freedom to assemble and block access there?

Just last night on the news I saw a bunch of them filling up a bank branch so nobody could get in the bank. Say your retired mother who uses a walker and takes cabs happens to bank there and needs to talk to the branch loan officer about her reverse mortgage loan because she needs the money, the drop dead date is tomorrow morning and if she doesn't get it done now, she loses out. The cabs can't get through and there's no way with a walker she's going to attempt to get by those people. Do they have the right to assemble then?

What about the private person who owns the park in the Wall Street area? It's his private property and they've completely taken it over. Is that in the constitution and are you saying you don't believe in private property rights?

Get real, man.

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Very well said Bob.

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It's cold here. This was a joke thread. I'm stuck, or so it appears. Actually, I could go to Cuba for the winter and live like a king and coach something. Baseball. Problem is I go someplace like that and next thing I'm running a drive and getting kids baseball gloves and soccer balls.

Just back from the cabin. An 8 hour drive north. Got dark at 4:30p.m. and sun was bright enough to read about 10 a.m. or 9:30 if it was really sunny. Tomorrow they have

SNOW Showers. Nice.

I told the wife, sell the house and winter south. She's having hot flashes and wants no part of it.

We have a word for that in french. Mer##.


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12.5% of the planets have 71% of the mass. Occupy Jupiter!

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It's started in many locations with denying these people the freedom to assemble.




Assemble where, exactly? If it's public property fine but how about private property like say, your house?

They've completely blocked off your house, your driveway, the whole area yet you have a very important medical appointment that if you miss you might actually die. Do they have the right to assemble there?

What if they've set up their protest camp in front of a federal courthouse so people with legitimate legal business can't get in? Everybody knows how jammed up court schedules are and this has been on the calendar for months now. Maybe you're a plaintiff in the class action lawsuit against BP Oil and you're a witness secheduled for today. Do they have the freedom to assemble and block access there?

Just last night on the news I saw a bunch of them filling up a bank branch so nobody could get in the bank. Say your retired mother who uses a walker and takes cabs happens to bank there and needs to talk to the branch loan officer about her reverse mortgage loan because she needs the money, the drop dead date is tomorrow morning and if she doesn't get it done now, she loses out. The cabs can't get through and there's no way with a walker she's going to attempt to get by those people. Do they have the right to assemble then?

What about the private person who owns the park in the Wall Street area? It's his private property and they've completely taken it over. Is that in the constitution and are you saying you don't believe in private property rights?

Get real, man.

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They have been evicted from public places and parks. They have been beaten by police for no other reason. That's for real, "man".


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Nothing will change until 99% of the 99% figure out that the 1% got that way off from ripping off the 99%. As long as we worship the rich they'll stay in power.


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Nothing will change until 99% of the 99% figure out that the 1% got that way off from ripping off the 99%. As long as we worship the rich they'll stay in power.



There was a time that I believed as you do. I'm not a product of the 60's...I'm one of the creators. Fortunately, my eyes were opened when I was challenged to scrutinize my thinking & my beliefs. I challenge you to do the same. It's not easy. It required me to look at everything I believed to see if it was actually true. My search could not be limited just to my usual sources of information. I have to admit it was one helluva realization to find out that most of my life was not based in reality.

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They have been evicted from public places and parks. They have been beaten by police for no other reason. That's for real, "man".




You think they should be allowed to essentially live there forever? Typical protests like the Tea Party ones and others have the people show up somewhere for a weekend, make their point and go home. These people have been camping out for weeks. Seriously, where would you draw the line? They are disrupting access to public buildings and private businesses including some very important ones like I described. Do you think a week is fair? If so then they should be gone already, no? How about a month? Six months? Six months is not looking farfectched, they're showing no signs of voluntarily leaving any time soon. So what is it, where would you put the limit?

This is just my take on this btw, I don't want to insult you, get into a flame war or anything, we're just having a simple discussion. We're still musician buddies and I mean that sincerely.

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This experiment has already been done, and it didn't work out the way the orchestrators planned. I don't remember the date, but I recall from my college economics class that around the turn of the century in England there was a move to dramatically raise taxes on the elite. The result was a mass exodus of the people whose investment in industry fueled the economy. After the brain drain, the economy suffered because the ones who were left were the ones who depended on others to provide opportunities, but now there were fewer people left to provide such opportunities.

Remember the Little Red Hen story? It tells the tale particularly well in this modern adaptation:

http://www.bgolden.com/oso/little-red-hen.htm

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Nope. I don't know what the time limit should be, ... but I'm quite sure they've already exceeded it.

Especially for a bunch of people who don't really know why they're "occupying"!

For the handful of "occupiers" who know this is really a socialist/communist movement, they should put socialist/communist candidates on the ballot and be honest about their intentions. Don't mask it as a populist agenda and prey on peoples hardships during trying economic times.

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Especially for a bunch of people who don't really know why they're "occupying"!





if you go to youtube and enter search strings "occupy" and "articulate" you'll
find some amusing clips of people explaining why they're there.

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I occupy my armchair.

I predict the snow will dismantle the tents soon.

It was -5 (about 27F) last night. At 8:30 a.m. there is frost (snow) on the roofs of houses and you have to scrape the car windshield.

Occupy Jamacia or Cuba. There's the rub.


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Protesting got the Vietnam war stopped. If enough people get up and protest there couild be changes.


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