thanks- john, you've come thru again. like Pat Marr, i'll have to plead ignorance. at some point i did know of the tutorials but had forgotten them. thanks 4 the remind. with all the resources you've brought to my attn, i'll be busy and probably won't be back on the forum for a few days.

tks again-
5string

oh- one last thing - no one ever answered my question about how to open the .sty files that are stored in bb. whenever i try to open the file with biab, i get the error msg: brun.sty is not a valid win32 application. what should i be using to open that file with ?