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Bottom line on 64 bit is you can use large sample VST synths. (More ram)

Now that they allow a VST on every track it is easy to run out of memory in the 32 bit space



I'm really curious now, how much memory are you talking about and exactly what VST's are you using that have mega sample sizes that caused you to run out of memory? I have fully loaded SampleTank, JABB, Jamstix, Emulator X. On my old machine I was running 10-15 tracks sometimes with plugins with no problems. My new box is lightyears ahead of that one.

I would bet but of course can't prove that 99.99% of Biab users would never even come close to needing that kind of power to run VST's and plugins. In fact I would be surprised if the number who actualy do that is more than 10. Not 10% just 10 period. Ok, say it's 100. Doesn't matter. There's a few complete pro's who own and run multimillion dollar studios who use Biab for occasional demo work for clients who can't afford to hire the house band. I'm sure there's a few Hollywood heavyweight types with a couple hundred grand of equipment who might really need that but man, to have PG do this kind of redesign for whatever the true number is? Personally I don't see it.

Another point is the cost of those mega plugins. It can easily run 2-3 grand for all that stuff including the sound libraries. I just bought a brand new in the box Kurzweil PC3 keyboard. I'm telling you the sounds in that thing are simply great. They are better than pretty much all of my different plugins including the horns and orchestral stuff in JABB. That keyboard cost me $1,350. That covers a ton of VSTi's then there's the new Korg Kronos I wrote about in another thread. That is about 4 grand since it's brand new and just came out. Rather than worry about 64 bit this or that and needing a $3,000 top of the line i7 PC with 32 gigs of ram in order to run these super VSTi's just buy my Kurzweil or another high end keyboard. You can use that with any old computer and sound like the New York Phil. Don't believe me? Check out the specs on the PC3 with the hotrodded DSP section and all the amp modelling and other stuff going on in that unit. It already has the equivilant to Amplitude and many other sims. Mine doesn't have the new sampling option that's why it's now going so cheap. The sampling one is called the K version. Yes I know it's kind of cool to have all that inside the computer but my Kurz is very powerful when it comes to sound design and effects. One of the first things I discovered about the Kurz is I can create and save my own GM soundbank using all of the Kurz patches. How cool is that? As soon as Christmas is over and I have more time that's one of the first things I'm going to do. The hot i7 with these fully loaded plugs can cost somebody 5 grand or more.

Just another take on this. Don't get me wrong, I'm a high tech geek type but I'm also cheap. I'm very big on doing "bang for the buck" analysis.

Bob

Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.