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OK, now this one is a biggie to me. I tweak the Real Tracks a LOT before mixing. I will regenerate a bar, a phrase until I find something I like.
Today, I highlighted a single bar of a vibes track, did the Regenerate Real Track - vibes patch (Selected region)... It DOES regenerate the selected region but also ERASES the next 4 bars ! Nada...wave form is wiped out !?
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I tried a realtrack here and it worked fine for just the section. Do you have build 2 update for Realband?
I'm using an old hard drive for the realtracks, but I don't have a Vibes realtracks. Were you doing realtracks or MIDI? The fact you said Vibes patch makes me think you did a MIDI track..
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Yes I have build 2. ALL are Real Tracks in this tune. I rarely use midi tracks. I've tried this on every track in the tune. It happens on EVERY track. Regenerates but then erase the next 4 bars completely. BEFORE regeneration:  AFTER regeneration: 
Last edited by MitchC; 12/09/11 12:48 PM.
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That's weird
Didn't happen here.
Two things I would try;
Consolidate the track, this may be part of the issue. (Track - Select Whole, then Track - Consolidate audio region)
If that doesn't work, try turning off 2 Bar ending..
If you like trying new generations of realtracks, have you found the multi but different feature yet? RB will generate 6 or 7 versions of a section for you to pick through.
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I'm working my way through the new features and have noticed the new multi-riff option but not tried it yet.
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I can't duplicate that one. Perhaps you could tell us more information on how to duplicate it:
For example:
1. Boot RealBand
2. Select style _JAZFRED
3. PRess BB button to generate RealTracks
4. Highlight an area around bar 3 to 4
5. Select Generate button and "Generate BB - selected Region -selected tracks"
When I do that. all is well, and there is no blank region past bars 3-4.
You might try [menu] Make all BB "blue" tracks regular tracks - as maybe the issue is related to you working on the BB tracks.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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Peter,
In the example pics above...
1. Highlight selected region to regenerate
2. RT click -> Select Regenerate Real Bass (Selected region)
3. The result is as shown in the 'after' pic above.
I've opened a variety of tunes with different styles and this happens on ANY real track in ANY style.
Last edited by MitchC; 12/09/11 01:09 PM.
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Peters Suggestion is at the bottom of the tracks menu and is worth trying -
make all BB tracks regular tracks. I almost always do that.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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OK, tried that.. made all BB tracks regular tracks... Same result 
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Did this just start today?
Have you been successful doing this in RB 2012 before?
Did you try 'consolidate track' as mentioned a few posts up?
Have you tried rebooting the computer, and restarting RB?
Neither Peter or I could duplicate this.. weird.
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rharv (sorry dont know your name). Yes, I've done everything you have suggested in your last post...consolidated track (never done this before), rebooted etc..
This did not happen prior to the 2012 upgrade. Today is the first day I've had to really try some things out under normal working conditions, and not having fun today in several areas.
Last edited by MitchC; 12/09/11 01:44 PM.
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One other thing I noticed during testing; having a browser open caused issues with the song generation window. Not this problem specifically, but others like the stylepicker list coming up with a blank area, or hiding behind the main screen. With browser closed I had no problems. Just mentioning it.
I tried a bunch of times to duplicate the problem you are having (again just now) and couldn't get it to happen. I don't know what else to suggest.
My name is Bob by the way.. or rharv is fine, either way.
I'll sift through testing notes and see if I can find anyone else that had this issue, and post any results if I find them.
Do you have any tempo changes in your song by chance?
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One other thing I thought of ..
In the song generation area, beside the actual generating buttons there are two buttons for setting the song range. Are those still at 1 and 32? Have they been changed? Don't know why this would matter, just trying to think of something that would cause it.
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Bob,
Closed my browser...same result
Opened a tune with no tempo changes... same result.
This will drive me nuts unless a fix is found. I use this technique ALL THE TIME and now I can't.
My temporary work-around is to generate the same track on another track, do the regen (still erases stuff)... then cut and paste a bar / phrase back into my original track... BUT this is not an acceptable solution IMHO.
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One other thing I thought of ..
In the song generation area, beside the actual generating buttons there are two buttons for setting the song range. Are those still at 1 and 32? Have they been changed? Don't know why this would matter, just trying to think of something that would cause it.
This range will change depending on the song right ? Not all songs are 32 bars.
Point is, I have done this routinely, and now I can't !
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Bob, don't want to clutter this thread with other issues, but just tried the Multi-riff option. Nice feature, but my playback of the options are garbled and an octave lower than what's on the track ? Great.
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UPDATE:
Just spent over an hour on the phone with Rob at PG Support and he has duplicated my regeneration issue ! HURRAY (I think ?) He took control of my PC, witnessed the issue, took one of my files and tried it on his system and got the same results. SO... hopefully, this will result in a RealBand build 2.x ? or 3 ?
Side Note: The support at PG MUSIC has got to be the absolute BEST of ANY software program I've owned ! Hats off to you guys in support !
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He took control of my PC, witnessed the issue, took one of my files and tried it on his system and got the same results.
Sorry to hear of your problem, but can't tell you how many times I have wanted software support in general to do this, "...just take control and push the buttons and show me how to do this!!" Good for them. 
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Thanks for sticking it out MitchC
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Bob - as we prepare to advance to 2012, do you remember that there was the case of disappearing bars when attempting to regenerate track portions back around 2011 - I remember Silvertones and others talking about it. I don't recall that the issue or cause was ever solved. Do you? Ian PS apologies Mitch for butting in but seemed related.
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