All true, and Tommyc makes a great point. When i said what i did above, or er ... on the other page, i want to be clear, i still use RB most of the time. One thing that gets forgotten here in the ASIO debate, is that when RB or BiaB for that matter say MME they actually mean WDM drivers. Which are far faster than the old MME standard, and at time rival ASIO performance.

I have seen raging debates over the two on the Sonar and other forums. WDM is a decent driver for many situations. ASIO does have some features that are great, like low latency monitoring, but other than that WDM is fine.

I was forced to choose just one application it would be BiaB, with RB attached at the hip. It is okay to move to another app for finishing if needed, but not always necessary.

Sure I want the three things we talked about (VSTi, ASIO, and Automation nodes) to be upgraded, but until then i am getting it done.

AS far as work flow goes there are 10 opinions for every 10 people as to what is the best work flow. RBs is real good for me. A couple actual work flow upgrades i would love aside from the other things are a bit more stability in audio surgery, if you select an area, and hold ctrl and slide it it is not real accurate, as some are, but still very usable if you take care. click and drag an area is shaky as well (related to the last point. You have to hold real still at the beginning or it miss starts the area. These type things are not big, but just part of the slow evolution process.

HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.