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+1 on styles with brass riffs - Tower of Power, Chicago, BS&T, AWB, etc. Separate tracks for trumpets, bones, saxes.

I would like more Motown styles, the Platters, the Asssociation, etc.

The new MIDI styles should be Real MIDI styles, see my post #346011 about that wish. Like that the velocity of the patterns should not be constant and not too much quantized. So a good new feature for MIDI styles !
Some ideas of styles : 3_4Boston, Madison, more Big Bands styles, styles ala BBKing, Ambient styles with loops.

It should be great also to have more multistyles for Latin styles, Jazz styles, Pop styles in order to get more variety than the classic A/B sections.

I need a utility style that sends sustaining chords on each part.

I want to send the chords to multiple keyboards' arpeggiators (KARMA and Motif) but I need to be able to choose an octave for each part.

Thanks!

+1 for the big bands with slower, ballad styles. Think Henry Mancini "Days of Wine & Roses", Jackie Gleason "For Lovers" arrangements. Lush strings and horn sections with highlights (multiple soloists?) from multiple instruments.

I also would like for some of the earlier styles to be updated to include features now available.

+1 to jford's thought on providing separate tracks for each instrument in an ensemble — as opposed to having just a single track that pulls up GM ensemble voicing, which is the case in many PG Music MIDI styles.

Besides brass sections, string sections and drum kits, too, could benefit from having their own styles wherein the individual instruments are divided among the available slots in Band-in-a-Box. Brass section, string section, and drum kit styles could stand alone, to create tracks that then can be sent to RealBand and added to a user's separately-generated band tracks of a compatible style. Or, perhaps, new "multi-pass" style sets could be made by PG Music to ensure compatibility between ensembles and the rest of the band while also allowing for really full, lush, and articulate mixes.

If I wanted a 12-piece band with a horn section, for example, on the first pass of generating instrument tracks to accompany my melody and chord structure, I might load a hypothetical HornDawgs1A style — the first part of a 2-part style set — and thereby generate the bass, keyboard, drums, guitar, strings, melody, and soloist tracks. For my way of working (Your mileage may vary.), I would then output each of those instrument tracks as its own separate audio (.wav) file for subsequent mixing in RealBand. Before any mixing, however, I would next load hypothetical style HornDawgs1B — the second part of a 2-part style set — to generate the horn section for my song. Where typical BiaB single-pass styles would usually have to limit the horns to a single brass ensemble track in order to also accommodate all the other aforementioned (minus one or two) instruments, this second pass could generate separately, say, trumpet 1, trumpet 2, trombone, sax, and flute. After I output the individual audio tracks for each horn, then I can begin mixing all 12 tracks in RealBand. Hotcha!

I'll leave it to you, Dear Reader, to imagine how multi-pass style sets including separated string ensembles or drum kits could be similarly applied.

No changes need to be made to either Band-In-A-Box or RealBand to accommodate this method of significantly increasing the number of instruments available in a style. It's just a matter of some new style sets being written by PG Music and/or after-market vendors, for something more than single-pass output.

Hey, I'm just sayin'....

Be well, be happy.

Sincerely (No, I really, really, REALLY mean it this time!), Bro. Dave Lister
"There once was a hermit named Dave...."
http://www.brodavelister.com/

(NOTE: Portions of this entry are excerpted from an earlier post by me: Multi-Pass Style Sets, #293383 - 11/13/10 03:15 PM. So there!)

Works for me, Bro. Dave. I suggested something like that awhile back -- having, say, a series of Beethoven Orchestra styles, one for brass, one for strings, one for woodwinds and one for everything else. I'm sure it would be a lot of work on PG's part, but maybe they could farm it out to us. I'm also strongly pushing for styles that use Garritan's Instant Orchestra.

New Orleans styles including

Funk in the Funky Meters, Galactic, Dr.John , Neville Brothers, Proffessor Longhair, George Porter Jr. style

New Orleans R&B Style such as found in the Music of Snooks Eaglin, Johnny Adams, Ernie Kdoe, Allan Tousant, Irma Thomas, Fat Domino etc

New Orleans Traditional Jazz Style-Note: This style is not the same as Dixie land there are major differences. Artists Satchmo, King Oliver, Jelly Roll Morton , Buddy Bolden, Sidney Bichet

see link: http://www.jazz.com/features-and-interviews/2009/8/26/new-orleans-100-tracks-part-one

New Orleans Brass Band music (Cross between the above styles actually)
Ribirth Brass Band, Dirty Dozen,Trobone Shorty, Kermit Ruffins- See the HBO series Treme for more examples or visit Frenchman Street in New Orleans

1. Rootless piano voicings. 99 percent of the time, the bass player is playing the root of the chord.
http://www.chrisfitzgeraldmusic.com/lessons/PianoVoicingsHandout.pdf

2. Open or spread piano voicings instead of "close" voicings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJs3JpYZKZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdg2BdXAr6I

Gipsy Kings!!!

A big +1 for open piano voicing.

I would also like to see open string voicing.

+1 for open voicing in the strings.

I would also like an option on some string styles where the B substyle is pitched up an octave. Or even better, add a C and D substyle to mimic the A and B, but up an octave. Useful in movie music.

I know I'm a little late in adding my thoughts on this Midi Styles request thread, but why not just make a midi style for every real style that is made. This would allow those who use sound blaster or vst synths that produce rinky dinky results to choose the real style loops making them happy, while others who have invested many $$$ in multiple high end synth modules along with extensive patch/sample libraries, to select the midi version. The best of both worlds. Very important as well to allow multiple midi out options so we can use the various hardware equipment we have. Also plug for adding a music score so music notation users can view on screen all midi parts in standard music notation. Thanks !

Ztarman

I think this is a great idea, so +1. If your players had MIDI instruments you could actually do it at the same time the Real Tracks are created. (Only problem is, how many MIDI Dobros are there?) Sorry, couldn't resist, altho it could be done with a GK pickup and Roland VG-99, which provides true pitch-to-MIDI conversion. Seriously, it would provide an instant starting point. You could use Celemony Melodyne to help automate the process for other instruments.

Another vote here for more piano styles. Although there are some great RealTrack pianos, they're a lot more prone to glitching because of pedaling and chord voicing. I'll often be hoping that the drum hit will hide the transition.

That's when I start searching through the MIDI styles for a comparable piano part.

And I'll echo the need to treat MIDI tracks similar to RealTracks, in that you can request a particular instrument, and get a MIDI style that only contains that instrument. Trying to dig through styles to find one that's got the sort of piano or string part that I'm looking for is an exercise in frustration.

What I really want is to be able to select "Piano", and see the MIDI piano styles.


With the suggestion of sections, it seems to me that BIAB MIDI styles should be able to take advantage of harmony styles. That is, let's say that I wanted some "Big Band" sort of riffs. Couldn't a MIDI style be developed that was basically monophonic riffs? This could then be "auto-expanded" by the auto-harmony function into full section arrangements.

So (being the lazy arranger I am), I could pull up a "Big Band Strings" on the Strings channel, and add "Big Band Horn Stabs" on the piano channel. Both would use the auto-harmony function to create the voicing I wanted.

Once I picked "Big Band Horn Stabs", I could have the option of changing the harmony on a bar-by-bar basis. So I might choose "8va" at one point, "3 part close" at another, and "4 part open" when I wanted a really big sound.

BIAB already has this sort of functionality. It just seems that it could be made a bit more transparent and easy to use.