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I love the idea of the 'woodshed tempo' in the Arrange options, but I'm having a problem of getting the increase to stop at my chosen maximum bpm. As I understand, a user sets the bpm increase per loop and the end bpm, along with the options on how the looping increase proceeds. After highlighting the bars to loop and clicking 'loop', BIAB plays those bars, increasing each iteration until the max is reached. This doesn't seem to be the case for me. I set it to increase by 25 bpm starting from 80 bpm, with 110 bpm maximum, and using the 'up/reset to base/up' option. I highlight four bars and pressed 'loop'. BIAB play the first 4 at 80 bpm, followed by 105, 130, 155, 180 bpm, and then reset back to 80 bpm. Anyone else experience this? Why would 180 bpm be the new 110 bpm?
Hope to get some assistance, but in the meantime...
Happy New Year!
Bob aka jazzwombat
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I haven't had a problem, but the values I entered made it possible to hit the maximum exactly. Perhaps the increment you choose must allow the maximum to be reached, not exceeded?
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Bob, Quote:
I set it to increase by 25 bpm starting from 80 bpm, with 110 bpm maximum
I haven't tried this feature but part of the problem might be the beginning and end tempos that you've defined when taken with the increase you've given. If you start at 80 bpm and then it goes up 25, you're now at 105 bpm. The parameters you've given mean that it's not possible to get to 110 bpm. It might be that you've confused the computer program.
Try the following and see how that goes: start = 80, end = 110, Woodshed tempo = 10.
Regards,
Noel
P.S. I see Matt was typing while I was getting my thoughts together. We seem to be thinking along the same lines 
Last edited by Noel96; 12/31/11 05:17 PM.
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The program is working as expected. The 110 that you enter is not the maximum tempo, it is the amount that you want to increase by.
So 80+110=190, and that's why it goes up that high.
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Peter Gannon
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I just went back to the program to see why Peter's explanation is correct. Look at the tool tip for the box that had the value of 110. It says "Maximum Total Tempo Change (bpm) - This is the maximum amount that the tempo can rise..."
I'm glad this question was asked; now I understand it better.
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I'm glad this question was asked; now I understand it better.
Me too
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The thinking behind making it a 'maximum tempo change' instead of 'maximum tempo', was that you could use it for a bunch of songs, without changing settings.
For example, if you set it to a max boost of 100, and load in a tempo 80 song, you would range between 80 and 180.
If you then load in a tempo 220 song, it will range from 220 to 320.
If it was a fixed tempo (max tempo = 140), what would it do if you loaded in a song with tempo 220 ? It couldn't speed up.
With that in mind, I am open to suggestions on ways to change/clarify it.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
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I know that once I realized that this is how it worked, it made perfectly good sense to me.
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It's fine with me, too, now that I understand it.
I suppose something in the beta testing caused me to think it was a max tempo rather than a max change. Of course, it always helps to read the tool tips, but I don't recall if they were there at first.
Now I want to go back in the documentation, and also check if I can suggest any improvement for the tool tip prompt, but I wouldn't change the operation.
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Thanks Peter. As Matt said, I doubt I would have noticed the distinction in the max change setting. I appreciate your clarification.
Bob
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