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Sorry for the obscure subject. I'll explain.
I load a BIAB file with realtrack guitar. I click on VST/DX Synths/Plugin. Select guitar. Select <VST> Amplitube 3. Select "Soft jazz echo" for the guitar. All works as advertised. I save the BIAB file. Close BIAB. Relaunch BIAB and play the song. No amplitube. I click the plugins, and sure enough amplitube 3 is connected to the guitar, but no audio is going into or out of the vst. If I click 'none' to remove amplitube and then select amplitube again for the guitar vst, viola, amplitube works, and guitar input and output as expected. Quite an annoying habit, as I lose the settings when reclicking amplitube the second time. (I am aware I could save them as a bank.)
What is going on and how do I prevent this?
Thanks for the help,
Bob aka jazzwombat
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Works OK for me. Do you use "save song as" first with all the settings?
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I have used both "save" and "save as" with the same loss of amplitube connectivity.
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I apologize, but I'm bumping this to keep it in the mix.
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I tried this today on a few tunes. I could not duplicate the issue. Each time, Amplitube reloads to exactly where I left it ??
(I always hate these answers !) I just could not get it to fail as in your experience.
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Return to factory settings.then give it a try.
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Thanks Mitch and John,
I'll reset to factory defaults and see what happens. I'd very much like to know why this should happen, as it doesn't present itself when I use amplitube 3 in Sonar X1c. Oh well, resetting I go...
Bob
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UPDATE:
Did a complete factory default reset. Regretably, this did not solve the problem, and the Amplitube settings were not kept upon saving and relaunching BIAB2012. While I was trying these changes, I noticed that launching 'plugins' froze the metronome. Has anyone else experienced this? I ask because I wonder if the frozen metronome and the failure to retain Amplitube settings is somehow related. Also, I run Windows 7 64 bit, and wonder if that may have something to do with this issue, i.e., maybe running 32 bit aps in a 64 bit background is causing the problem. (Again, no problems with Sonar, so I doubt it.)
At this point, I don't have a solution nor understand why Amplitube's settings are not saved. I can live with this, as I don't use BIAB for live performances, just making backing tracks and practicing. I can and will just configure Amplitube each time I use it.
If anyone has any additional suggestions, please feel free to respond. Thanks.
Bob aka jazzwombat
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I didn't try it on my 7 x 64 machine.
Have you tried turning off the UAC?
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Works OK here on Windows 7 64bit. UAC is off. I just tried 1 tune earlier. I'll try some more today to see if I can get it to fail.
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OK, something IS going on here I think. I tried 4 different files and get the same results as you. Amplitube shows connected, but does not produce the patched sound. Default BIAB sound plays. And, after reopening and playing the file (no Amplitube sounding) when I click the 'Stop' button I get an 'Access Violation' and BIAB freezes. Have to shut it down. Reopen, remove Amplitube VST, plays fine, stops fine. I'd open a support call and have them remote into your PC and experience what you are ? The file I tested days ago works just fine !  So there is a parameter or setting in that song that does not cause the issue..weird.
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I didn't try it on my 7 x 64 machine.
Have you tried turning off the UAC?
Yes. UAC is off on my machine (by default).
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OK, something IS going on here I think.
I'd open a support call and have them remote into your PC and experience what you are ?
Thanks Mitch! Misery loves company. I'll give support a call tomorrow and see what they suggest. I'll continue to update this thread as warranted.
Bob (you know the rest)
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UPDATE: PG Music tech support is aware of this problem.
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Still waiting to hear back from tech support <hint>.
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Hello,
Did you get my message I left on your answering machine, if not give me a call on the support line and I'll see what I can do for you. Please ask for Rob.
1-866-983-2474
Thanks!
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Did you get my message I left on your answering machine, if not give me a call on the support line and I'll see what I can do for you. Please ask for Rob.
1-866-983-2474
Thanks!
Yes, thanks Rob. I was not able to be at my computer yesterday, so I will call to arrange a time early next week (or this weekend) to get this resolved. I appreciate your response.
Bob
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UPDATE
Feb 8, 2012
As best as I can determine, this problem is either style- or song-specific. Amplitube settings are saved when I use _J140_GB Jazz Swing Combo and "Ba-lue Bolivar Ba-Lues-Are", but lost when using _JAZZNYC Jazz Slow Ballad w/NY Piano and "Polka Dots and Moonbeams". I've confirmed these observations over several days and BIAB sessions.
I've been pressed for time the last couple of weeks, so I have not switched the styles around to confirm my suspicions nor have I explored other realtrack styles with guitar to determine which of them retain/lose Amplitube settings.
I hope to delve further into this later this week (read=weekend).
Bob aka jazzwombat
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I'd greatly appreciate it if someone could try these two styles with Amplitube to see if someone else can reproduce this problem.
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Hello Bob,
I think there might be an issue with 'song' realtracks (i.e. realtracks that aren't in the STY), and using the top slot of the plugins window. If you use the 2nd slot does it work for you consistently?
Andrew
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