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@rockstar_not, Yeah. I got over my biggest hurdle so far and was the interface install and being able to record. I have enough now to get me going and the other stuff can come later, if need be. (So, the manual reading, viewing some tutorials here and there, and getting a lot of hands on experience is my priority now.) P.S. I'm getting this: http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-FEN-0326902-500
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Yeah. I got over my biggest hurdle so far and was the interface install and being able to record. I have enough now to get me going and the other stuff can come later, if need be. (So, the manual reading, viewing some tutorials here and there, and getting a lot of hands on experience is my priority now.)
P.S. I'm getting this:
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-FEN-0326902-500
Squiers are nice basses for the money. However, I would have helped you save some money there by heading over to rondomusic and picking a bass from their arsenal. You would have spent about half of what you spent on the Squier. Lots of folks here very happy with their rondo purchases. They even have an old school precision copy (sort of)
http://www.rondomusic.com/bassguitars4.html
I get compliments all the time on my SX bass that I bought there for $119 back a few years ago. Pump it through a Behringer V-Amp Bass Pro unit that I got on Craigslist for $100 into our church's PA system with a big ol' subwoofer under the stage and man, the thing just shakes the place.
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Thanks for that and will check out them out. (I haven't bought the Squire yet). Yes, money is definitely an issue and one of the main reasons I shop AMS is to take advantage of their "3-EZ Pay" but those prices look good.
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rokq22 - the main criteria I ended up using when I bought that bass was the 'megathread' over at the talkbass forums. It's hundreds of pages long now (they've had to archive it a couple times) with almost nothing but praise - from guys with legit basses like Lakland, Sadowsky, etc. that keep those axes at home and gig with their SX and Agile basses from Rondo.
Some swap out pickups and whatnot, but I can tell you the build quality of my SX bass is way better than my Made-in-Mexico Fender fat strat.
Excellent customer service from Kurt at Rondo. One thing you will likely have to do is a proper setup on the bridge and neck. However, with a bass, this is actually pretty easy to do with some studying of videos on the internet.
You can also see what these run for used on eBay and you'll see they hold a bit over half their MSRP from Rondo. So even if you buy one and don't like it, you can unload it for easily half what you paid Rondo - which you likely won't have to do.
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Well, I'm learning. And, as usual, one thing leads to another and I read a post with someone mentioned Audacity. And I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWflvukIlG4&feature=fvwrelNow THAT looks REAL promising!
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Just found the following and it looks REALLY great!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWflvukIlG4&feature=fvwrelNot quite to that point yet but already wondering if vocal tracks from RealBand can be moved to Audacity, changed, and moved back to RealBand again??  Oh, there MUST be a way, huh?
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Sure
In RB use Track export
Open the new file in Audacity and adjust
save the file
Import the Audacity wave file into the RB project using Audio-Import
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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In RB use Track export
Open the new file in Audacity and adjust
save the file
Import the Audacity wave file into the RB project using Audio-Import
 I'm excited again.
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For about $70 more you can get a new TC Helicon Voice Live Touch on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TC-Helicon-Voice...=item5ae56373af
Not sure how how it compares to the Digitec pedal you are considering feature wise but is popular with a few of the Forum members.
Maybe they can comment on which is better bang for your buck.
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What a difference a day makes as I wasn't all that impressed with the Audacity and it's effect on MY vocals.  So now I'm back into being interested in a processor for the voice (but will do more experimenting with Audacity in the meantime).
Was wondering, would the TC Helicon work with my Line 6 UX1? Dunno off hand, but would the TC Helicon plug into the two "Line Inputs" in the back of the UX1? Or where? Hmmm, I think I need to get away from the computer and YouTube for a bit and go to Guitar Center or Sam Ash and check them out.
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For about $70 more you can get a new TC Helicon Voice Live Touch on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TC-Helicon-Voice...=item5ae56373af
Not sure how how it compares to the Digitec pedal you are considering feature wise but is popular with a few of the Forum members.
Maybe they can comment on which is better bang for your buck.
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What a difference a day makes as I wasn't all that impressed with the Audacity and it's effect on MY vocals. So now I'm back into being interested in a processor for the voice (but will do more experimenting with Audacity in the meantime).
Was wondering, would the TC Helicon work with my Line 6 UX1? Dunno off hand, but would the TC Helicon plug into the two "Line Inputs" in the back of the UX1? Or where? Hmmm, I think I need to get away from the computer and YouTube for a bit and go to Guitar Center or Sam Ash and check them out.
Well it may have been $70 at some point in time, but that is way to low to stay there for long (now at $369 which is almost list). The VLT has been discussed here in the forum as much as any single item. It is a USB device so no need for any other interface, but yes it can be routed by external cables into any interface.
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There are enough free tools available that I'd be surprised if you have to spend *anything* to get a good vocal recording.
PM me if you want suggestions. I'd need a sample vocal track (with backing tracks) to make suggestions, but there is a lot of free stuff out there that works really well.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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There are enough free tools available that I'd be surprised if you have to spend *anything* to get a good vocal recording.
PM me if you want suggestions. I'd need a sample vocal track (with backing tracks) to make suggestions, but there is a lot of free stuff out there that works really well.
Yeah, I know. And I gotta get it through my head that it isn't like "the old days" where one HAD to buy something cool if they wanted it.
Anyhow, for most the day I've been trying out the TONS of guitar effects on the Line 6 UX1 and I'm only on the presets starting with the letter "G". I have noticed it also has lots of VOCAL presets so will try them out later. Enough for now.
P.S. Just saw a video on YouTube about improving vocals and the guy says "You have to keep in mind that if you suck there's no plug-in in the world that's gonna help you not suck." Oh, darn!
Anyhow, rharv, here's my vocals. And, obviously, before I discovered BIAB/RB. It's just, as of now, I'm thinking I might actually sound "better" (if that's possible) recording my vocals from an amp as opposed to through the computer. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsCB3p0p5EM
P.P.S. So many headtrips so little time. And just this evening the thought about MICROPHONES dawned on me. I mean, why hasn't there been a single mention about MICROPHONES on this thread? I starting thinking how over the past "X" amount of years that I have accepted my vocals with lots of YouTube videos when recorded via my Sony HandyCam. Hey, they might have "sucked" but they were good enough for me. Then I bought a ZOOM Q3HD which, supposedly, had one of the best recording MICROPHONES FOR MUSIC at the time. But I wasn't satisfied. Heck, I sound pretty darn good, sometimes, at karaoke nights and less so when recording via the video camera. Now here I am sort of dissatisfied with the recordings with the computer. So I'm out there searching for various plug-ins but not a mention about the MICROPHONE.
Well, the microphone I've been using to record so far is a Peavey PVM580TN. Tomorrow I'll try an oldie Shure PL91A. Will using the Shure over the Peavey matter? Well check this out:
http://www.recordproducer.com/?a=154
http://www.recordproducer.com/?a=156
Hmmm, interesting. Okay, I haven't had time yet to view the videos but I most certainly will tomorrow. But before I go to bed I'm now wondering, does a $1000 microphone really sound all that much better than a $99 microphone when one can use an endless amount of plug-ins to enhance the vocals recorded by that $99 microphone?
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.....guy says "You have to keep in mind that if you suck there's no plug-in in the world that's gonna help you not suck." Oh, darn!
Absolutely 
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Well I compared my Peavey PVM580TN with the Shure PL91A and I am gonna use the Shure! I found that the Peavey was a bit too "sensitive" while the Shure isn't and I like that. I have a pop screen but I could put my mouth up to the Shure and it sounded pretty good. Have to turn the mic gain up more with it but that's quite okay. I recorded a track and then messed with it in Audacity and, well, I think I can actually pass as a not too good singer. Which is better than sucking.
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Shure SM58 and SM57 have been used on a lot of recordings. There's a reason for that. It's not the cost of the mic; it's the result that matters.
A track recorded with an expensive mic *may* sound 'better' when A/B compared to a track recorded with a less expensive mic .. but the sound (in the mix) from the less expensive mic may just fit better in the end. Sound characteristics of given mic, and many other factors come into play.
One of the forum members, Harvey Gerst, wrote a nice article on mics a while back. I'll try to find a link. Mic selection can make a huge difference, but don't let anything (including price or reviews) influence your decision. Use your ears.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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One of the forum members, Harvey Gerst, wrote a nice article on mics a while back. I'll try to find a link. Mic selection can make a huge difference, but don't let anything (including price or reviews) influence your decision. Use your ears.
Well how about if you just "know" a mic is good because of the large amount of users of it? Like the Shure 55SH? Needless to say I just bid on one on eBay and haven't even heard what I might sound through one yet.
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I've never *known* a mic was right from reviews (without hearing it), but I do hope it turns out to be the perfect one.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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I've never *known* a mic was right from reviews (without hearing it), but I do hope it turns out to be the perfect one.
I guess I was saying that I just have my heart set on getting a Shure 55SH. But now that I've seen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRO7V2MidX8
I'll be going to Guitar Center and/or Sam Ash (no eBay for the mic!) to try the Shure 55SH and, while I'm there, I'll probably check out the Shure SM57 also. But, well, the mics I have now are probably good themselves. (The Electro-Voice PL91A and Peavey PVM580TN, with the edge going toward the ELV for me.) Also, and this might be a bit strange, but the "Cool Factor" means something to me as well and, to ME, the Shure 55SH has it.
Hmmm, was the Shure 57 originally designed as in INSTRUMENT mic?
P.S. I was actually GLAD I was outbid on eBay for the Shure 55SH. My high bid was $91.53.
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G.A.S. - we've all had it.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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Rokq, you don't know who Harvey Gerst is do you? Google his name and slow down, you're making me dizzy.
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