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About to pull the trigger; old user (back when it was delivered on floppies). I've been reading up; love the idea of the conductor. I'll be using this live, and I'd like to use the Conductor to open/close chorus loops.....if its working.

I read thru the new features/build notes & such, searched here a bit, but I didn't see anything since spring of '11. Anybody have anything to report?

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Sorry Jazaddict, the Conductor function does not work reliably (at least for me) with Real Tracks and PG seems to remain silent on the subject. I'm a long time BIAB user and fan, upgrade at every offering (now at version 2012 build 349)and use it weekly in a live standards-based jazz setting. Being able to change the number of choruses on the fly would be terrific, but the Real Track sounds are so incredibly good for jazz please don't let this relatively small issue keep you from using this great program.

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Thanks for info John. Thats zzzzzactly the reason and venue (sax here) I intend to use BIAB for so I'm disappointed that BIAB support isn't responding. I've been shopping around and the Real Tracks/Drums really out-do the competition, so I'm gonna go for it.

I did a solo/duo gig w/ a Roland MC50 years back. Foot switch looping control, auto-loading sets, great box. Lotta gear though...lotta work. BIAB looks faster, easier, and with softsynths and REAL T/D great sound, so I've decided to do the solo gig again.

I'm lookin into Ableton Live (although I'm a $onar user :-/ ) for the looping thing when the venue calls for it. BUt I'm gonna sing & play guitar too, pop, some country, and jazz when the venue is right, and the open solo thing isn't right for every audience. We'll see....but I'm gonna do the BIAB thing...if they fix it, then all the better.

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BIAB by far the best choice out there.

Good luck.

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What is the issue that isn't working for you with the Conductor and RealTracks?


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Instead of the conductor I set the chorus to repeat 3 times.

To start, use
Ctrl+2 on the numberpad.

This starts the song from the beginning and will loop the 2nd chorus for solos.

At some point when the solos should end, hit 1 on the numberpad and it with continue on to the 3rd chorus and on to the end.

Some people buy the USB foot switches to hit these two key combinations with their feet.

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Hi Peter. We spoke on the phone in the late 90s, remember? Thanks for checking in.



Apparently the Real Tracks are not being properly governed by the conductor's loop commands and play out of position after loop-exit, and there's a pause or gap that interrupts the playback as described in this thread:

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/showflat.p...true#Post334684

Considering I haven't purchased & used yet I'm a bit unclear on the specifics beyond what are reported here.....the long & short is I'd REALLY like to use a footswitch to send the note commands to BIAB songs to shut off the looped solo section while playing live.

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Raintalk.....Thx for checking in....so you're saying that the 2nd chorus will repeat indefinitely in spite of the "repeat 3 times" setting until you hit the numpad 1?

Have you tried this with any Real Tracks?

I guess I'll have to quit talkin about it and get my hands dirty here; ya pays ur money & takes ur chances.

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That's correct.
ctrl - numpad 2
Makes the second chorus loop indefinitely

It works perfect with Realtracks in BIAB. You can even nudge tempos and use the conductor.

Realtracks in Realband are a different story.

This a an example of the footswitch to use
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...+USA-_-12999116

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To demonstrate that Conductor does not work with real tracks create any 32 bar "standard" type song. Create and configure for a small tag ending. Pick pretty much any jazz type style.

Set drums, bass piano for Real Tracks (mute the rest for simplicity).

Set to (say) 3 choruses.

Hit Play.

Let song build and play and get somewhere in (say) chorus #2. Bring up Conductor window and select button #5 (Last Chorus). A small yellow window appears alerting that the next chorus will be the last chorus.

The next chorus (depending on style selected) will usually sound like a last chorus (simpler drum, no bass walk) but the song will not actually take the tag ending, but it will abruptly end after playing the number of measures in the tag ending.

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Thx fellas. I'm satisfied that I'll be able to get the loop functioning in some capacity. Maybe Peter will act on John's specific example .
I saw a 3 pedal USB on ebay for $35 straight from Hong Kong ...sc new eggs looked the same....ya never know .
Thanks for the feedback.

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I'm not current with the Conductor but I used to use it a lot. It works best when your song is simply one chorus with no repeats or tags because you're going to do that manually anyway. I found it was easier to make a different version of my songs just for use with the Conductor and put them in a separate directory. I still have the original versions I created in the fake book style with repeats, 1st/2nd ending and tags. That version is good for printing out fake charts but not so good for the Conductor. Think of it like big band charts. Some have repeats but most don't. They just run for 5, 7 or 10 pages because all of the the sections while similar, are not exactly the same. Drives me crazy as a piano player because I'm used to 1 or 2 page fake book charts.

Just put part markers where you want the jump points to be and it should work fine. Example, put a marker where you want to loop the intro because I like to vamp some intros, then the verse or chorus starts when you hit the numpad, same for the solo section, maybe a bridge and the ending. Now there's no formal "tag", it's just wherever you decide to put a marker. I also soon learned the hard way to keep the numbers consistent from one song to the next. For me 7 is always the ending for example.

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Wow. Great tips Bob....thanks a lot. Between all u guys I have good idea what works and what doesn't. I'm pretty excited to get rollin with these nice sounding Real Tracks.

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So now that I've had my mits on it....

I have the conductor looping as I'd like it to......the thing I didn't get was that its a "Real Time" control of the song.

SO..... While the song is playing, say in chorus 2, I hit the "Chorus" button under the "loop" section of the conductor, the current chorus loops continuously as expected. While playing still, I hit "off" under "loop" and the next chorus is number 3 (you can often hear it go to the A part), and then it tags & ends.

So yay. I'm unclear on zzzzactly how the rest of the buttons work, but THOSE two buttons do what I want.

Give 'er another go John......

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Hi,

I am using 2018 with the conductor and i find 2 things:

1: if you jump to a section of the song too early after starting it seems to be still processing and either wont jump or may be play incorrectly after jumping.

2: there seems to be general instability at times using conductor where pausing may lock up the system or jumping may start playing the wrong part or the correct part but with the wrong instruments playing.

it is not all the time and will work well for a lot of the time but it is not consistent. this is not an issue in my home office/studio but is a real concern if I want to use this feature live.

Are there some tricks to making the conductor function more stable or am i best to export to a DAW like Ableton to gain this higher level of live control functionality?

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stuthebassman69, firstly, welcome to the neighborhood.

BiaB can commence performing a song before all of the song has been generated. It's done this way so that as soon as enough of the performance is known it can start playing while the remainder of the song is 'constructed' behind the scenes.

Your issue may occur if you attempt to move to a part of the song that has not yet been finalized.

A workaround is to check the Playback Generation item in Song Settings, and see if that makes an improvement.

Let us know if this helps in some way.

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Answering Peter's question, "What about using it with Real Tracks isn't working for you?"

What doesn't work for me is: if I have a file that is using a Real Tracks style, when I hit the qwerty key for, say, section 2, it doesn't jump to section two.

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You can use the Conductor in RealBand it should be instant as the SGU songs are save as SEQ so they are wav and already generated.

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