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Curious this morning---
BB of course provides this instrument isolation quite nicely with the varied options available as they pertain to "rests" i.e., A specific instrument track or all or some hold while others play (within the same chord duration).
A good way, for example, to let the drums and bass play, while quieting down the guitars...or whatever combo you want.
At first glance, RB does not seem to have this flexibility on a track by track basis (if you're starting from scratch in RB; in which case I am by creating backing tracks against a pre-recorded wav file).
Again, framing the song in BB is probably more common, and as such, RB will faithfully generate as desired.
So, even though I can place (within RB's chord sheet) the desired pushes and rests, it seems I cannot direct one instrument track to act independently of another (one strums while the other holds for example).
I hope I'm clear enough here.
Again, green...and some pro's out there might be able to help.
If this observation is true, well then...seems like a good wish list item to tackle.
Thanks!
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You're making the assumption that most new people make and that is RB is just a different version of Biab. Not so. RB is a full blown audio/midi recorder. It's the blue Biab tracks that are confusing you. Just convert or copy those to regular tracks. Think of it as Sonar, Reaper or Cubase with the ability to add Real Tracks and Biab parts. You've got 48 tracks to play with and each one is completely separate from the others. Approach this from that perspective and your problem is solved.
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Hi Bob,
In this case, I am not using any blue BB tracks whatsoever.
I have an underlying wav I imported (a song in itself); and I'm generating RT's on different tracks at choice locations on the timeline etc.
My question remains the same: When using a USER track and generating a RT, it follows the REST as stated in the Chord Sheet (be it HOLD, REST, PUSH etc).
That's fine...for THAT track.
How can I tell RB to generate other/different types of RESTS on different tracks?
For example:
Track 1: Underlying wav/song (not BB source)
Track 2: Guitars holding on bar 4
Track 3: Bass playing through on bar 4
Track 4: Drums HIT on bar 4 beat 1, REST for beat 2; and FILL for beats 3-4
Does this help?
Thanks!
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You need to change the chord sheet for each instrument. For example, place a hold on bar 4 for your guitars. Now generate. Now take the hold off of bar 4, and generate your bass, it will play through. The nice thing about Realband is that you do not have to regenerate the whole track to make a change. Just highlight the section of the track you want to generate. I find it sometimes easier to highlight the section on the chord sheet, then when you go back to the tracks view the track will be highlighted on the section you want to regenerate. The wish list just had a great suggestion about being able to save multiple chord sheets for each song. Making these kinds of changes is the reason...Bobby
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You are right spot on Bobby...thank you for enlightening me!
Excellente'
I can't see the forest through the trees sometimes.
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Sorry, I didn't understand your question. Yes, changing the chordsheet is one of the biggest reasons to use RB instead of Biab. I will do that as a test and generate 3 or 4 separate tracks of the same instrument. I will also combine RT's and midi tracks and then mute some and listen and finally decide which ones I want to keep and delete the others. If you have a good quality midi synth you can really spice up a RT part by writing a small exact lick in midi and mixing it in. RB is very powerfull for this kind of thing.
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No prob Bob...(jazzmammal)---
After 2 years...I'm VERY green ya know! (I am ashamed)...
BUT...learning...so that's a good thing.
Maybe in about 10 years i can pull this off!
I do have a good synth (or so I think anyway) I grabbed up a Yamaha Motif XS6 a few years back...more power than I have time for.
Rats.
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Silvertones made this discovery several posts ago.
Now what we need is savable RB chord sheets for each track.
Perhaps each track of each SEQ should have it's own chord sheet. OR if the user wishes, the option of just one chord sheet for all tracks.
Comments? Then maybe add this to the wish list for RB.
Cheers - Ian
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Ian you are dead on.
Post it!
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Quote:
Silvertones made this discovery several posts ago.
Now what we need is savable RB chord sheets for each track.
Perhaps each track of each SEQ should have it's own chord sheet. OR if the user wishes, the option of just one chord sheet for all tracks.
Comments? Then maybe add this to the wish list for RB.
Cheers - Ian
Ditto!
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I don't know if this will help I posted somewhere else ?
"The workaround i do is where you have a hold, shot or stop on say a C chord C... C.. C. and you want the guitar to keep playing, just add a "g" on the end C...g and in the BB guitar track, generate the track, duplicate it then regenerate another instrument in the same BB guitar track, duplicate it and so on and so forth.
That way you are not limited with just the BB tracks for exemptions:
C...b bass is exempt
C...d drums " "
C...p piano " "
C...g guitar " "
C...s strings " "
You just won't get the realcharts as the BB tracks don't generate realcharts.
Bob.. "
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I don't know if this will help I posted somewhere else ?
"The workaround i do is where you have a hold, shot or stop on say a C chord C... C.. C. and you want the guitar to keep playing, just add a "g" on the end C...g and in the BB guitar track, generate the track, duplicate it then regenerate another instrument in the same BB guitar track, duplicate it and so on and so forth.
That way you are not limited with just the BB tracks for exemptions:
C...b bass is exempt
C...d drums " "
C...p piano " "
C...g guitar " "
C...s strings " "
You just won't get the realcharts as the BB tracks don't generate realcharts.
Bob.. "
Well of course we all know this. It's standard. It's when you need different instruments to do different things.And this only works for the first 8 BB tracks.All the other tracks will follow the instructions based on the dots.
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Solidrock, John - that is why I like the BIAB chord window - there is a lot of flexibility in "arranging" your song - particularly with midi but not with RTs. FLAN - your first post in this thread well describes a very useful enhancement to the RB Chord Window. If it's possible to program the RB Chord Window for each RT in an seq (as User required) AND RETAIN the gui of the track changes, that would be a light-year jump for RT arranging in RealBand. The key component would be to have the ability to retain a memory of the changes the User made to each track. That would mean that each track would have the capability of having its own Chord Sheet/GUI with the changes. Maybe too much in the way of memory requirements . . . I don't know, I'm not a programmer.  Any word from PG as to the possibilities? Ian
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Well of course we all know this. And this only works for the first 8 BB tracks.All the other tracks will follow the instructions based on the dots.
"duplicate it then regenerate another instrument in the same BB guitar track, duplicate it and so on and so forth. That way you are not limited with just the BB tracks for exemptions:"
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