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I have manually entered the 20 chords of a song in a linear way as follows : 8 bars (A) + 8 bars (B) + 4 bars (C).
How can i ask BIAB to play (exemple) : A A B C B A whithout retyping the chords in a linear way ?
I do not find anywhere any satisfying explanation to that very basic request.
Thanks again for this wonderful product that is BIAB.
Daniel
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Hi Daniel, If this were my song, I'd set it out in a linear format. That is, rather than use repeats and first/second endings, I'd simply lay it out so that the song played all the way through. To do this ... - Set the number of bars for the song.
- Type in the first 8 bars (A-section).
- In chord view, hold the left button of your mouse and drag across the chords in the first 8-bars, use CTRL+C to copy
- Put the cursor on the first bar of the second section and use CTRL+V to paste the chords.
- repeat this process with other repeated sections.
Hope this helps, Noel
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Hi Daniel - I agree with Noel, but he didn't really answer your question, It is possible to do the sorts of things you want to do in BIAB, but it may be limiting for you in this case. I can't teach it to you, but to get started, look into "Repeats, codas, and 2nd and 3rd endings (right click on any measure to get there). Also Tags (right click, Song Settings). I think these are the main tools that do what you want. In Help you will find tutorials, and I know there are some videos on all this.
Now, Noel's comment is good because, in my opinion (and others, I think), it is easier in the end to copy and paste to create one long linear song than to employ and manage the repeats and endings, etc. And you will have more control over the song overall. Only downside may be printing - If you insist on conventional repeats and endings appearance in the printed score.
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Yes, I always arrange the songs in a linear way, not only because it's much easier (at least to me), but because I've found that using the "Repeats, codas...." feature don't work well with realtracks (I don't remember the details in this moment, sorry)
The downsides to this are the 255 bar limit and, as Kelso says, printing; let's hope that PG Music will implement XML support in future versions, allowing BIAB to comunicate with other third part notation programs.
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Quote:
I have manually entered the 20 chords of a song in a linear way as follows : 8 bars (A) + 8 bars (B) + 4 bars (C).
How can i ask BIAB to play (exemple) : A A B C B A whithout retyping the chords in a linear way ?
AA is a simple repeat, just read the help for repeats. B is there. C is there. The final B and A are copy and paste as described.
That answers your basic question but to go a bit further, I think you're implying you want Biab to be able to move around chunks of a song in any order you want once you've entered the chords for each section once. It won't do that directly but Real Band will. I've suggested to new people many times they should work with RB at the same time they're learning Biab. RB is a great program.
When I said Biab won't do it directly, you can manage it but it's very awkward compared to RB. In Biab you can insert blank bars anywhere you want and then use the copy and paste but many times you completely mess up the melody track and you can't see it while you're doing this. RB is a linear sequencer with a very cool "copy bars" window. You are not looking at the chord grid you're looking at a window with each track laid out and named horizontally with each bar laid out vertically so your whole song is a grid. You can copy the whole thing or just a couple tracks, whatever you need. When you highlight and hit copy just place the cursor on a vertical row of bars and hit paste and that whole section is inserted so by doing that you can rearrange your song anyway you want. Much easier than Biab.
Now, what I think would be really cool and I've talked about this for years during testing is to be able to label sections of a song like you say, A, B, C etc and then simply tell Biab to put the A section here, the C section there like you first asked about. Alas, that hasn't happened yet but it's been asked about for a long time.
Bob
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FYI
The Conductor window allows live, real time QWERTY keyboard or MIDI control of the song as it is playing.
Search the PDF BIAB manual for details on the conductor
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