Pat, the key phrase in my reply is "In my experience, most people who like karaoke also like hockey for the fights and NASCAR for the crashes."

I know people like karaoke, but my point is that having been to a number of them, a large part of the crowd is there to laugh at the juke box and shower stall heros who stink the place out. If people want to hear good singing and be entertained, do you think karaoke is their first choice or would they be more inclined to go see a band with singers who have been there before?

Hey, people can like what they like. It makes me sad to see people make fun of something I hold as dearly as I hold music. Music is a craft and it's hard work, and when I see people making fun of it I get sad and just leave.