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When I Pray #161958 06/08/12 11:30 AM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA Beagle OP Journeyman
OP Beagle Journeyman Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA	How often am I allowed to post? I have several done and these are going on my first CD release planned for this fall. This particular song is the anchor. the intro is a little long, but bear with it. I think the intro is important like it is and you'll understand when the rest of the song starts up. Credits: Part__________________Name Hatian Creole_________Philip Traynor Simple Chinese________YeaLy Traynor Latin_________________Adrian Earnshaw (spoken by his mother) German________________Mark Haigh French________________Mark Haigh Welsh_________________Rob Pulman Japanese______________Ben Dorman (spoken by his wife Tomoko) Argentinan____________Herb Hartley via cell phone from Argentinan village Melanesian Pidgin_____Janet Wohlgemut PNG Abelam____________Janet Wohlgemut Electric Guitar_______BIAB: 838 -Guitar, Elec Rhythm Pop Ballad Clean Elec Ev Acoustic Guitar_______BIAB: 703 -Guitar, Acoustic STrumming Spirited Ev Bass Guitar___________BIAB: 700 -Bass, Electric Pop Half Notes Push Ev Drums_________________BIAB MIDI Superior Drummer NY Avatar kit Organ_________________Beagle on Motif Lead Vocals___________Beagle Backing vocals________Yvonne Utz Style: _MDBALCL Medium Pop Ballad Guits Mixed in Sonar X1x64 When I Pray (c) 2010 Reece Bain Verse1 Here we seek You, As we gather and fall down on our knees As we cry out, From our sad hearts, begging forgiveness please. Sounds of many lifting voices How can you hear our pleas? Prechorus Can You hear me? Through the voices as I bow my head and pray? Chorus When I pray? When I pray? When I pray? When I pray? Verse 2 The cries of many All around us lifting to the sky What's the purpose that you tell us to pray and we comply? Can we know that You will hear us or do the prayers just pass You by? Prechorus Chorus + When I pray? When I pray? Bridge Lord I hear you speak through Your word and now I know You hear me when I pray Chorus x2 When I Pray http://soundcloud.com/beaglesound/when-i-pray Scandalous Grace Beagle Soundcloud Beagle Facebook

Re: When I Pray Beagle #161959 06/08/12 11:48 AM User Showcase
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,646 Kentucky P PgFantastic Veteran
PgFantastic Veteran P Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,646 Kentucky	Great song. Very well produced. Love the harmonies. Like ending it with the excerpt from the Lords prayer, fit the song very well. To answer your question about posting. I do not know of any limit, I would suggest that you keep it in this same thread, instead of making a bunch of new threads. I would post a song and give it a few days for feedback and then post another. Once again I suggest that you use the same thread. Thanks for sharing! God bless! My Music My Tunes Psalm 57:7 My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music.

Re: When I Pray PgFantastic #161960 06/08/12 02:05 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA Beagle OP Journeyman
OP Beagle Journeyman Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA	Thanks very much Robert! I appreciate the listen and great comments! actually, tho, the question was a little "tongue in cheek" according to the FAQ for the User Showcase forum, we're supposed to start a new thread for each song. http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=282880&an=0&page=0#Post282880 anyway - thanks again! I appreciate it! Last edited by Beagle; 06/08/12 02:05 PM. Scandalous Grace Beagle Soundcloud Beagle Facebook

Re: When I Pray Beagle #161961 06/09/12 12:40 AM User Showcase
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 20,360 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 20,360 Australia	Hi Beagle, One thing that stood out to me as I listened was the strength and confidence of the performance. You've written a great song here. In addition, it's arranged with flair and produced with attention to detail. You kept my interest all the way! All the best, Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2026 audios on Soundcloud

Re: When I Pray Noel96 #161962 06/09/12 11:26 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,987 Texas City, Texas Steve Young Expert
Steve Young Expert Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,987 Texas City, Texas	Hi Beagle, Good song! Yes, He does hear us. Thanks for sharing this one with us! Steve Steve Young Music "In order to compose, all you need to do is remember a tune that nobody else has thought of." - Robert Schumann

Re: When I Pray Steve Young #161963 06/10/12 03:30 AM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA Beagle OP Journeyman
OP Beagle Journeyman Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA	Hi Noel, thanks so much! I appreciate the listen and great comments! I'm glad this one kept your interest - that's a great thing to hear! Hi Steve, Yes, He does! thanks so much! Scandalous Grace Beagle Soundcloud Beagle Facebook

Re: When I Pray Beagle #161964 06/13/12 08:39 AM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA Beagle OP Journeyman
OP Beagle Journeyman Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA	I'm not getting a lot of response here. I'm not upset about it, I'm just curious, is it because the song is bad or is it maybe just that Christian Music is not listened to very much here? Or something else? I've been listening and commenting on other people's tracks - but maybe not enough? I don't want to sound like I'm complaining - I'm not. I'm just trying to determine if there's something I'm doing wrong here? Scandalous Grace Beagle Soundcloud Beagle Facebook

Re: When I Pray Beagle #161965 06/13/12 05:45 PM User Showcase
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,086 Nashville, TN Sundance Veteran
Sundance Veteran Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,086 Nashville, TN	Christian music doesn't get as much feedback in my experience. Obviously lots of effort went into this. For me, I'm not into that long intro with all the voices. Then all the voices again. It's not bad at all and quite creative - just not my thing. Also I personally liked your vocal more in the higher register toward the end - again just my taste and opinion but it seemed to me that the key was maybe borderline low for you on the main part of the vocals. Not saying it sounds bad. Creative production and timely message. Youtube Channel Soundcloud

Re: When I Pray Sundance #161966 06/13/12 05:52 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA Beagle OP Journeyman
OP Beagle Journeyman Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA	Thanks Josie! I appreciate the honesty! I can take honesty, I just don't care for the silent treatment! This is a "creative" song and thus the long intro and the voices again in the bridge. this is the only one of my songs like this. I have hopes that people can listen to "Christian music" without judging it before hearing it. I like to listen to all kinds of music because music is spiritual in itself. But I guess I hope too much! thanks again! appreciate the honest feedback! Scandalous Grace Beagle Soundcloud Beagle Facebook

Re: When I Pray Beagle #161967 06/17/12 02:36 PM User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,699 F.M.M. Veteran
F.M.M. Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,699	hi beagle well done great song i would cut back the voices a bit in the begining other then that very creative and brings glory to God bless you thanks eric AMD (TM) 5950 4.9 GHz 16Core Processor 64 bit 32 bits of ram windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card Antelope ZenQ guitars Ibanez 2202a 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100,GT1000 pedal Yamaha HS8 studio monitors

Re: When I Pray Beagle #161968 06/17/12 04:00 PM User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,286 Hamlin NY MarioD Veteran
MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,286 Hamlin NY	Beagle, this is fantastic. Great strong vocals with a super backing track. I really like the lyrics. But like Josie I didn’t care for the intro. Maybe just one voice would work, don’t know. Loved the ending! Maybe the intro could be the start of the Lord’s Prayer and the ending the end of it? Two thumbs up! I haven’t been on much as it’s spring here, thus the honey do list is quite long! I have a lot of outdoor projects going one. When it gets hot and muggy I’ll have more time, I hope! I prefer to see each new song as a new thread. Many times I will respond to a song, check to see if there was a response but then never come back to it. It sounds like I’m missing some tunes! Principal: Your child always causes trouble in school. Me: My child causes trouble at home, do I ever call you? 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: When I Pray MarioD #161969 06/18/12 03:46 PM User Showcase
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,026 Tommyc Veteran
Tommyc Veteran Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,026	Nice Job, love the Lyrics!

Re: When I Pray Tommyc #161970 06/18/12 05:05 PM User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,805 Pensacola, Florida jford Veteran
jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,805 Pensacola, Florida	Very well done! I loved the different voices at the beginning. It really makes the song poignant. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 12TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 12TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting/construction)

Re: When I Pray jford #161971 06/19/12 05:55 AM User Showcase
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,109 Winston-Salem, NC Pat Marr Veteran
Pat Marr Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,109 Winston-Salem, NC	Hi Beagle, here are my thoughts: 1) I thought the chords and melody in the "when I pray.." part complemented each other extremely well, which made it very catchy. I can imagine this being a favorite congregational sing-along in your church. 2) Regarding voices in the intro and again in the middle of the song: I like this concept a lot... the idea of believers from all over the world lifting up their voices in prayer is absolutely spine-tingling! However, if you hadn't posted the credits stating the different languages I am almost certain that I would not have understood your intention. I would have wondered why you inserted random noise into the song. Something like this would work better if the song had an accompanying video, because the graphics could help to define the specific intent of the voices. Having said that, the target audience for this song is a church congregation, and I think they would be more oriented toward recognizing the significance of the voices than a general audience would be. 3) I was a bit surprised but pleased when the song changed from a minor key to a major key, because that is an excellent musical adaptation of how prayer works in the attitude of the person praying. Prayer often begins mournfully, focused on self and personal need, but then elevates the inner man to an awareness that is larger than these pieces of meat we're trapped in, and eventually focuses on the joy that is available only in the new man ("For God hath not given us the spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind"... that verse, if put to music would start out in a minor key, and end up in a swelling major key) 4) Josie is right.. if you look down the list of songs in the user showcase, those that are Christian in content consistently have fewer comments. This is partly because religion has a polarizing effect, and many here steadfastly avoid any reference to it... so the potential number of people who might comment is automatically smaller But shame on us of like faith if we fail to encourage one another in the use of music as a ministry. But even having said that, I'm a little cautious about dispensing praise for faith-based activity, because praise is a powerful drug that often addicts well-meaning people to the affirmation of men instead of from God. I doubt that's a problem for you though.. the above comment says more about me than it does about you. I hope your songs minister to your congregation, and to the world if you make them avaialable. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ey71h8ep047758h/AAC12jNM0Hz9Q8zsh5iDeqNHa?dl=0

Re: When I Pray F.M.M. #161972 06/19/12 12:41 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA Beagle OP Journeyman
OP Beagle Journeyman Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA	Quote: hi beagle well done great song i would cut back the voices a bit in the begining other then that very creative and brings glory to God bless you thanks eric Thanks so much Eric! I appreciate it very much! Scandalous Grace Beagle Soundcloud Beagle Facebook

Re: When I Pray MarioD #161973 06/19/12 12:44 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA Beagle OP Journeyman
OP Beagle Journeyman Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA	Quote: Beagle, this is fantastic. Great strong vocals with a super backing track. I really like the lyrics. But like Josie I didn’t care for the intro. Maybe just one voice would work, don’t know. Loved the ending! Maybe the intro could be the start of the Lord’s Prayer and the ending the end of it? Two thumbs up! I haven’t been on much as it’s spring here, thus the honey do list is quite long! I have a lot of outdoor projects going one. When it gets hot and muggy I’ll have more time, I hope! I prefer to see each new song as a new thread. Many times I will respond to a song, check to see if there was a response but then never come back to it. It sounds like I’m missing some tunes! Hi Mario! thanks so much! I appreciate the listen and the comments! I very much appreciate your honesty - I always accept honest comments as long as someone's being constructive according to what they hear and feel. thanks so much for taking the time to listen and give your feedback! Scandalous Grace Beagle Soundcloud Beagle Facebook

Re: When I Pray Beagle #161974 06/19/12 12:46 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA Beagle OP Journeyman
OP Beagle Journeyman Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA	Thanks Tommy! I appreciate the listen and comments! Thanks John! I'm glad you liked it. it's not everyone's "cuppa" but I was going for something creative to drive the point. I appreciate it! Scandalous Grace Beagle Soundcloud Beagle Facebook

Re: When I Pray Pat Marr #161975 06/19/12 01:04 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA Beagle OP Journeyman
OP Beagle Journeyman Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 674 Fort Worth TX, USA	Pat, wow, thanks so much for the detailed critique! I truly appreciate this and every comment from everyone! let me address comments individually below. Quote: Hi Beagle, here are my thoughts: 1) I thought the chords and melody in the "when I pray.." part complemented each other extremely well, which made it very catchy. I can imagine this being a favorite congregational sing-along in your church. personally I thought this wouldn't necessarily make a great "congregation" song, but you're not the only one who has said that, so maybe it will! I have presented it to some churches for their use if they want. Quote: 2) Regarding voices in the intro and again in the middle of the song: I like this concept a lot... the idea of believers from all over the world lifting up their voices in prayer is absolutely spine-tingling! However, if you hadn't posted the credits stating the different languages I am almost certain that I would not have understood your intention. I would have wondered why you inserted random noise into the song. Something like this would work better if the song had an accompanying video, because the graphics could help to define the specific intent of the voices. Having said that, the target audience for this song is a church congregation, and I think they would be more oriented toward recognizing the significance of the voices than a general audience would be. Thanks! I was really looking for a creative way to get the point across and this idea came to me when we had a service with different people reading the bible in different languages. It made me think of all of the different languages that are lifted up by the millions at the same time and how God must "hear" us as a bunch of chaotic noise, but yet still hears each of us as an individual voice. Quote: 3) I was a bit surprised but pleased when the song changed from a minor key to a major key, because that is an excellent musical adaptation of how prayer works in the attitude of the person praying. Prayer often begins mournfully, focused on self and personal need, but then elevates the inner man to an awareness that is larger than these pieces of meat we're trapped in, and eventually focuses on the joy that is available only in the new man ("For God hath not given us the spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind"... that verse, if put to music would start out in a minor key, and end up in a swelling major key) FANTASTIC! that's exactly what I wanted to convey with that change! it's subtle since it goes from Cm to C but the feel gives you an uplift at the point where the singer "gets it". Quote: 4) Josie is right.. if you look down the list of songs in the user showcase, those that are Christian in content consistently have fewer comments. This is partly because religion has a polarizing effect, and many here steadfastly avoid any reference to it... so the potential number of people who might comment is automatically smaller yes, I am seeing that and I understand. that's OK. I like to listen to all kinds of music myself (as long as it's not offensive), but I know that's not necessarily true for the "other direction." thanks for the helpful direction on that! Quote: But shame on us of like faith if we fail to encourage one another in the use of music as a ministry. But even having said that, I'm a little cautious about dispensing praise for faith-based activity, because praise is a powerful drug that often addicts well-meaning people to the affirmation of men instead of from God. that is absolutely true! it's a two sided coin and we have to be careful we're not praising man just for praise, but that we are encouraging each other as we are supposed to do. it's a balance! Quote: I doubt that's a problem for you though.. the above comment says more about me than it does about you. I hope your songs minister to your congregation, and to the world if you make them avaialable. thanks Pat! I try, but of course we all fall short! thanks so much for the great comments, Pat! I appreciate it and it seems like you do like the song! thanks again! Scandalous Grace Beagle Soundcloud Beagle Facebook

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