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I just picked up a Henrickson JazzAmp 112... Has anyone else tried this amp? And what's your impression?
I find it pretty powerful (120W) but I am finding the EQ system to come up with a great tone a bit tricky... Actually, next to my Fender SuperChamp XD (it is a Tube Amp), the JazzAmp is not sounding too too much better at 3 times the cost...


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Actually, next to my Fender SuperChamp XD (it is a Tube Amp), the JazzAmp is not sounding too too much better at 3 times the cost...




A commnon complaint for expensive amps...

It you got it new, be aware of the Henrickson 7 day return policy:

"7-day Trial: If you don't love it after 7 days we'll take it back for a full refund minus shipping costs"


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I actually got it from Long & McQuade in Calgary (CAN) where their policy is 30-day Full Refund -- No questions asked... so I'll keep that in mind. LOL.


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The SuperChamp is really not a "jazz" amp. More like a good Blues or certain types of Rock situation, where a bit of overdriven distortion is the goal when pinned.

A Jazz amp, on the other hand, is going to be designed with a more High Fidelity goal, Negative Feedback power amp circuitry, often UltraLinear Output Transformer design, and typically much less Gain derived in its preamp circuits. Meant to amplify the typical "jazz box" guitar, carved top and F holes, hollowbody.

I don't think there can be a direct comparison between the two, considering the vastly different job that each is designed to do.


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Thank you MAC.

So how can one decide on the best EQ settings to get the ideal tone out of the guitar beside using a lengthy trial and error method?

There's a volume knob, and 5-band EQ:

100 Hz
300 Hz
1,000 Hz
3,000 Hz
10,000 Hz

(the 10,000 Hz is probably as useless as a "t i t" on a bull...)


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So how can one decide on the best EQ settings to get the ideal tone out of the guitar beside using a lengthy trial and error method?




If you know someone whose playing style is similar to yours, you may try getting them to play guitar while you adjust settings. That way you’d hear the adjustments in real time.

I’m not familiar with your amp, but I did notice there were some pretty heavy hitters endorsing it. John Abercrombie, Larry Coryell, etc.

http://www.jazzamp.com/

I guess the question is whether you like the sound you are getting from it.

If you decide it’s not right for you, I’d recommend looking at the Roland JC-120. It’s in the same price range, but it’s probably more user friendly and versatile. I had one and loved it, but I ended up trading it and a Strat for a 1948 Gibson L7. It was the sweetest and cleanest sounding amp I’ve ever heard. Great for jazz. The only drawback was that it weighed a TON!

http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=249

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Honestly, 100 sets of ears will define "ideal" differently. Best you play with it, get it how you like it, take a picture of it with your cell phone, and refer to it as needed.

Back in the day we would take a Polaroid in every room to show the EQ as it sounded best. Of course now, you pink the room out and your EQ sets itself, but that WAS the 80s after all....

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If you decide it’s not right for you, I’d recommend looking at the Roland JC-120. It’s in the same price range, but it’s probably more user friendly and versatile. I had one and loved it, but I ended up trading it and a Strat for a 1948 Gibson L7. It was the sweetest and cleanest sounding amp I’ve ever heard. Great for jazz. The only drawback was that it weighed a TON!





Exactly, I owned one once also, wonderful sound. However, The day it was delivered I lifted it out of the box and hurt my back . I was laid up for a long time with that injury. It was literally painful to carry to gigs.

Replaced it with the Fender Jazzmaster Ultralight and have never gone back.


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I’d forgotten that the Roland Cube 80XL has a JC Clean setting on it, along with oodles of other settings and effects. I have one and love it. There’s also several other forum members on here that use the Cube.

Definitely worth checking out, but still pretty heavy. You could try the Cube 40 for a weight reduction. I think the effects are the same.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/roland-cube-80xl-80w-1x12-guitar-combo-amp


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Thank you MAC.

So how can one decide on the best EQ settings to get the ideal tone out of the guitar beside using a lengthy trial and error method?

There's a volume knob, and 5-band EQ:

100 Hz
300 Hz
1,000 Hz
3,000 Hz
10,000 Hz

(the 10,000 Hz is probably as useless as a "t i t" on a bull...)




The realworld answer to that question first prompts the need to answer a question.

"What is the kind of sound you are looking to achieve and what is the type of guitar you wish to achieve that sound with, to include pickup type?"

BTW, the 10K setting is generally used to impart a bit of "air" to the overall sound. It is subtle, when used effectively, and again, is something that is likely only desirable when amplifying a Jazzbox used in the Jazz idiom, for the most part.


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MAC,

I mainly use my Gibson ES-339, which is a semi-hollow (335-like) laminate top w/Classic Humbuckers. I only use the neck pick-up and want to have a nice and mellow dark Wes Montgomery or Matt Otten like sound... Not bright and/or tinny. I mainly play solos and some bossa nova style chords...

As an alternative, I sometimes play my hollowbody solid spruce top Peerless Conti which also has a classic gibson humbucker at the neck position. But because it has an ebony fretboard, it normally sounds brighter, so I need to darken it more...

Henrickson has included a chart that shows all the frequencies for each string and fret position, so I see there is an overlap with the EQ dials. Having said that, I have no idea how to use that information to set the dials correctly.


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Well, the "classic" electric jazz guitar sound came from amps that accentuated the midrange, for the most part.

So consider settings of your new amp's EQ that would emulate that.

100 Hz -- I would not set this one too high (nor too low if playing unaccompanied jazz guitar) for the low E string is at 82 Hz and we often depend upon that for the Bass lines. Consider a starting point as being somewhere before the halfway setpoint.

300 Hz -- Halfway point to maybe a bit above halfway for starters.

1,000 Hz -- This is where most of what you want is going to be. I might choose to set this as high as 3/4ths of full travel.

3,000 Hz -- Likely a bit above halfway point, but this is where you will find the pickmarks (typically 5KHz or so) and also string noises to some extent. Likely this will prove to be the most sensitive setting, so experiment with this one once all the others are set to the values given.

10,000 Hz -- "to taste" -- but always within reason. Too much hiss when not playing is not desirable, so govern the setting accordingly.


The real fundamental point here is to have the two key midrange setpoints above the rest.

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