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Its just struck me. There is no tech reason why Band in a box could not have vocal tracks recorded by good session vocals! Granted you would not be able to radically change the chords (but you could use subs) . There are many pop, country and rock standards in BIAB why not add vocals? This woud be great for members of the band that are learning a song, or comping skills.
Copyright? Some songs are out of copyright. I am no lawyer, but surely if we did have to pay extra for vocals, this would be something many would do. Perhaps a release as a seperate pilot project?
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And what would the value of that be when you already have the original recording? Just curious as to your train of thought.
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Firstly, there might not be a single 'original recording', there may be many. Also its possible to do a lot of things in BIAB trhat you cant do with a recording - substitute chords for example, change styles etc.One thing I would like to do is take out the piano so I can play along to the vocal - comping.
I have been thinking about this more,... I once had a demo of melodyne, it was Frank Sinatra singing a solo. The demo showed the score, and then the notes were altered. I was very suprised to see Frank sing a new note. It actualy sounded very authentic. Obviously the technique could not stretch the pitch too far, but a perfect fifth seemed acheivable.
This tech is now licenced and Daw's likew Cubase sport it. I have seen harmony vocals created this way, and its effective. Basically as long as the file is monophonic, a lot is feasible.
Presently Real Tracks are Acid like loops, and very good they are too. But there seems room to me to have some sort of pitch shifting algorithm too. Even without the pitch shifting, we could still have some vocal loops for RT standards, using 'acid loop' type RT's.
So, again why not vocal RTS?
A human voice is the ultiate instrument and dramaticaly deepens the 'connection' of the music. I can even think of the last time a song without a vocal was in the charts here in the UK!
I think it will be a killer addition. It would take BIAB away from other 'accompaniment software by another coutry mile.
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ZAerio
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This is not really a vocal track in the sense of the original post, but I think it could have great potential.
I have a vocal expansion board for my Roland JV-1060. I am looking forward to putting a song together with those sounds. Lot of jazz things like "doo's", and all kinds of choirs. Many are very high quality. These simple syllable sounds could add a whole new dimension to a style pattern.
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OK I am still thinking about vocals. The more I consider it the more I think why not? It would be very useful to have some out of copyright jazz standards sung by a good session singer. OK so if you had a track with vocals, you might not want to mess with it tooo much but you could reharm to a degree, and possible cut and past choruses.
There seems room fro this idea to me, and it would be a decent feature ot be able to add a vocal on even just some songs - IMO.
I would love to play Piano when someone is singing Summertime.
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Hi ZeroZero.........
Why dont you find a real human singer and play-practice with him or her? That would be better for your musicianship anyway........
its easy to forget that this is just a machine, a computer........that will always be limited in comparison to the real thing......
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Obviously a real singer (AKA a real band) is better. If I could find one that will be up at 3am when I am, go home when I want them too, can sing in a variety of styles, will endlessly repeat if I want them too, never engaged inm band politics and would not make my wife jealous when she spent hours in my studio etc.. you get my point..
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Yeh, sure do they dont come to the gig late or get drunk at it either! Just play exactly what you tell Them!
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