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...The speaker is the one who defines his own intent, not the listener...


The listener gets to decide what the intent of the received message is, not the speaker. Once the words have left his mouth or pen (or keyboard), the listener is then in control of the message's interpretation.


I agree completely that the listener has power to interpret a message... my point is that real communication has not occurred unless the message received is the same as the message that was intended. If the listener gets a different meaning than the speaker intended, one of 3 things is true:
1) the speaker is not a good enough communicator to get his point across
2) the listener is not a good enough communicator to understand the message
3) the listener purposefully twists the message into a straw man argument.

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I am not mad or upset at anyone. I was just defending the right (actually a privilege here) of hawgly to state that he didn't think this song belonged here.


I agree with that statement 100%. If you read the whole thread before commenting you would already know that I said the same thing earlier.


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On another forum (another music one, too!) a discussion was going on about Aurora and 2nd amendment rights. A canadian and Scot were blasting the US for having the right to bear arms, but not having the "right" to universal health care. I tried to explain that a right is something that is natural and can be taken away from you by government (mankind has "armed" themselves from before the caveman days), but that healthcare was a benefit from society that you have to pay for (somehow). But like all political discussions, no one's mind actually gets changed so it is starts to become a time-waster.


I think there's value in speaking even when it seems that nobody is listening. SOMEBODY listening from the sidelines will remember what was said, and his or her life may take a completely different direction as the result of a word fitly spoken. The minds at stake in such discussions are usually those of the listeners, not of the speakers.

Peace, Kevin. I have been an admirer of your songs since long before I saw you here on the forum. I saw your songs on song ramp first. Your taste in music is very similar to mine.

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