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There must be a massive "library" of song-specific arrangments produced by the "power useres" here on the forum and I am wondering how those super-talented people would feel about sharing their work with other forum members on request.
I know there is a User Showcase but that's not what I am referring to. I'm suggesting...what if someone posted a request for...say...Just in Time, or Scarborough Fair or Take Five or any other title*...would those who have high quality arrangements for those songs be willing to e-mail them upon request? (can BIAB arrangements be e-mailed or are they too big???)
I know there are LOTS of song-specific arrangements for free on line and from some great commercial producers and I don't mean to step on any toes.
But I know that a LOT of work has been put forth by the top people on this forum and I just wonder if they'd like to see their work get a wider audience.
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Jim
*The requests would likely be for the more complex arrangements but not necessarily. The power users hear know a LOT more about "humanizing" EQs, etc. then the rest of us unwashed masses and the work of the power users would likely sound a LOT better than average even for the more simple arrangements.
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this web site does not have a place where files are traded, mostly to keep the possibility of copyright infringement to a minimum.
Right. That's why I suggested e-mailing the files not posting or linking to them. That takes PG entirely out of the equation AFAIK.
And there is also no guarantee (from PG's point of view) that the songs posted on the User Showcase are actually original.
Sequences of chord changes are essentially not subject to copyright protection and that is what I'm referring to...not songs with melodies.
I thought the major objections would be:
A. The files are too large to e-mail and/or
B. It would be a pain in the neck for forum members to respond to requests for their files.
THANKS for the links to BIAB files on the internet. I've found SOME that are pretty good but most are fairly lame...and massively cumbersome to find in terms of high quality specific songs.
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Jim
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Right. That's why I suggested e-mailing the files not posting or linking to them. That takes PG entirely out of the equation AFAIK.
oh, I see. I missed your point, sorry. You can certainly do that.
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And there is also no guarantee (from PG's point of view) that the songs posted on the User Showcase are actually original.
true... but that's where the group's self monitoring comes in. By making sure that the rules are adhered to, forum members have a better chance of keeping this great forum alive
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Sequences of chord changes are essentially not subject to copyright protection and that is what I'm referring to...not songs with melodies.
as I read farther down, I see that you haven't been happy with most of the songs you've DL from the web... which are all sequences of chords. Many of the ones I've found even contain the signature licks and melody(now they're not so legal) but I still don't like the way they sound.
So, to be honest, you are looking for songs that are as close to the original as possible, and you want to obtain them from people who have invested a lot of time tweaking them, all without implicating PGMusic.
When you spell it out, the legitimate options start getting smaller.
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I thought the major objections would be:
A. The files are too large to e-mail and/or
B. It would be a pain in the neck for forum members to respond to requests for their files.
"B" would probably be more of a problem than "A"
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THANKS for the links to BIAB files on the internet. I've found SOME that are pretty good but most are fairly lame...and massively cumbersome to find in terms of high quality specific songs.
yeah, I haven't been very satisfied with most of the downloaded files either. That's why using BIAB to make my own is so much fun!
My guess is that what you want is possible on a very small scale if you observe peoples comments to see who makes the kind of covers you'd like to use. Then ask for a personal email address so none of the correspondence goes through PGMusic's PM (that could be traceable in a legal audit)
Taking all the risk yourself by using your own email and your own initiative to contact people off-forum, you'd probably have a 50/50 chance of finding somebody who was willing to work with you. They would probably expect to receive an equal number of high quality files from you too, as fair trade.
But, if somebody contacted me by email to ask if I was willing to exchange copyright protected material, I'd probably be paranoid and not do it.
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Good for you Pat...about being unwilling to share copyrighted material. I've been in the publishing business for 15+ years and it bugs the #$%^ out of me that so many otherwise fairly honest people don't give a second thought about stealing bread off of song writer's tables (and actors...movie producers etc.)
I DL'd some pretty decent arrangements not realizing that the person included melodies "just so people can get the feel of the songs."
To be honest, I didn't delete the files but I DID mute the melodies on the theory that if I couldn't hear them...they must not be there!!! (-:
I guess my whole question was just another of my crazy ideas. I think I'm up to Crazy Idea #924.
I can imagine how fun it is to create your own high quality arrangements. My issue...so far...is that I just can't find the time to really "dig in" to BIAB to get nearly as good as I am sure lots of the folks here are.
So for songs I really want to drill down to, I guess I should just buy more of Notes Norton's stuff which I have found to be really outstanding.
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this web site does not have a place where files are traded, mostly to keep the possibility of copyright infringement to a minimum.
Right. That's why I suggested e-mailing the files not posting or linking to them. That takes PG entirely out of the equation AFAIK.
Best,
Jim
I don’t believe that this takes PG out of the equation. Napster and other P2P sites did not have the copyrighted files on their sites. They were just a means for pirates to communicate with thieves so they could steal music. But they were hauled into court, forced to stop and pay heavy fines if I remember correctly. I do not want that to happen here.
In case you didn’t get my drift I hate people that steal music!
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this web site does not have a place where files are traded, mostly to keep the possibility of copyright infringement to a minimum.
Right. That's why I suggested e-mailing the files not posting or linking to them. That takes PG entirely out of the equation AFAIK.
Best,
Jim
I don’t believe that this takes PG out of the equation. Napster and other P2P sites did not have the copyrighted files on their sites. They were just a means for pirates to communicate with thieves so they could steal music. But they were hauled into court, forced to stop and pay heavy fines if I remember correctly. I do not want that to happen here.
In case you didn’t get my drift I hate people that steal music!
Hi Mario. Actually the former Napster network was entirely different than a process of two people agreeing to share files via e-mails that take place OUTSIDE the PG forum.
Napster was a Peer-to-Peer network (P2P)...the PRIMARY PURPOSE of which was to FACILITATE the sharing of copyrighted material.
That P2P network relied not only on the users all having the Napster utility installed but also...and this was the KEY to the lawsuit...a "central server" (owned an operated by Napster) that functioned as an "index" to the music that the users were willing to share.
Then, the person seeking the song clicked on a link to another user's computer and bingo...the file was transferred. BUT...that whole process relied on
A) The Napster utility which the courts ruled existed PRIMARILY for the purpose of facilitating the sharing of copyrighted material and
B)The Napster central server without which the index that pointed users to specific songs.
Sites like this one are now EXEMPT from claims of copyright infringement facilitation under the "safe harbor" provisions regarding "transitory network transmission" of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
I get it that my idea was goofey....I have a LOT of those. (-: (and a FEW really good ones mixed in just to confound the You Can't Do That Gods! (-:
And yes, I did understand that you don't favor copyright infringement. GOOD FOR YOU!
Best,
Jim
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In my opinion what Jim is talking about isn't quite the same as what happened with napster. The P2P schemes typically involved trading the same files that you'd get on a purchased CD, which takes money away from the artist through lost sales.
Any of us who has ever downloaded BIAB files from most of the available sources (Yahoo groups, Alannah's site, etc) has gotten files of well-known songs containing the melody and somebodys best shot at duplicating the signature riffs. All Jim wants is the same thing. (He even specifically said he doesn't want the melody... only chords "in the style of" some song.)
If we call Jim a music thief for wanting to download BIAB files , that pretty much indicts everybody on the forum. Even though such files have been around for years nobody seems to get in trouble for uploading and downloading them AS AUTONOMOUS INDIVIDUALS. But if a business (PGMusic)sponsored the trading of the files, that's a different story, and that's why no such trading is promoted here
So, I'm trying to address the question Jim actually asked. He didn't ask "how can I steal music" and he has made it clear that's not his intent
He's really only asking how to get a better quality BIAB file (i.e. created by the experienced users here on the forum, not by Joe Blow on the web who posted the very first song he created with BIAB 1.0)
I think that's a legitimate question, especially given his stated condition of not implicating PG Music. I think the functional answer to the question is 4-fold:
1) it COULD be an infringement of copyright (depending on inclusion of melody or sig licks)
2) acting as an individual I doubt seriously that you'd be prosecuted
3) but you'd have to find people who are willing to give away stuff they've created from scratch and tweaked to perfection... or...
4) learn to roll your own (which is how the forum gurus became experts in the first place)
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Standard disclaimer:
the statements made by Devil's advocate are his own opinions, and are not endorsed by PGMusic or any of its employees, affiliates or pets.
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If we call Jim a music thief for wanting to download BIAB files , that pretty much indicts everybody on the forum.
Pat, I did not call Jim a music thief. I was referring to those who used P2P for stealing songs. Jim, if you took it that way I apologize for not making myself clear.
I was just reading an article that stated the music police are trying to go after ISPs that allow people to swap music, emails included. That would put PG at risk.
Personally I can’t see why it’s illegal for someone to do a copy then email it to a friend. No money is changing hands. But if a company like PG who sells software has a forum where people can do just that then that is a problem, according to the music police, as far as I know.
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I was just reading an article that stated the music police are trying to go after ISPs that allow people to swap music, emails included. That would put PG at risk.
How? PG isn't an internet provider.....
And in the true sense of what an ISP does, they sell a service to people (the S in ISP). How they use it is pretty much up to the moral compass of the users to whom they provide internet (the P and I respectively - yes, I am a wise guy, but you knew that).
This has been in court time and again, has it not? I would have to research it but I thought that the internet nazi's lost this one when they went after someone for swapping music. As I understood it, you could swap music if you did not charge money for it or burn it to disc.
By the most literal definition of what the RIAA music police were after, if I write a song and publish it, I (as myself) become detached from that song in the sense that I am not the "artist", and not "me". So for me to send you a copy of MY OWN SONG is in violation (again, by the most literal definition) because the "artist", though that artist is "me", does not get royalties. THAT is how stupid the RIAA was.
I worked somewhere that butted heads with the RIAA. I can't talk much about it, only to say that I was just a little bit away from the middle of the head butting. They are, um, not very honest or respectable people.
Now, imp that I can be, let me toss this into the mix. PG is in Canada. Does US law apply to them? If you say yes, how do you explain the presence of file sharing servers in Europe and Russia and such?
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I misunderstood, Mario, Please accept my apology.
I agree with what you're saying
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PLEASE lets not get into yet another copyright "what's legal and why don't they do this or they should do that" or "so and so did it this way, blah blah". There's so many threads about that just do a forum search using the word copyright or copywrite and you'll be busy for days.
Jim if all you want are good arrangements with chords I can send you tons of those depending on what styles you want. I've got Real Book one, most of book two, a whole bunch of different stuff where I took a lame downloaded file and made it sound like something. A lot of them have Real Tracks but if you have the Ultrapak then if I send you a song it'll load up on your system and find the correct RT's.
Just to be clear I'm talking about chords only, Biab doesn't put in song specific licks anyway and anything that has a melody I can remove it.
When it comes to sending songs around the web a lot of folks will just change the name to fool all the bots. It's not April in Paris, it's August in Chicago. It's not I Feel Good, it's You Feel Bad. It's not Georgia, it's Peachy. Hey, I'm starting to roll now it's not....
And don't forget song titles by themselves are not copyrightable either.
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Eddie, from the way I read it if an ISP has someone that it is providing service for, say A.com, and A.com has a forum that allows copyrighted music to be swapped, even by email, then the music nazi’s would go after the ISP. The ISP would either have to pay penalties, be shut down or both if the ISP did not terminate A.com. I doubt this would ever happen but who would like to be the first trial case. I bet it would cost a fortune.
I agree with you about the RIAA. I had to stop supplying a site for 50s music because my lousy sounding midi songs, they had to use the MS midi sound set, contained lead lines. This was before DAWs and MP3s. So no matter how bad the music sounded if it contained a copyrighted melody it was a no no. Note that I was not charging any money, I was just trying to help someone get the site up and running.
Yep, I did forget that PG was in Canada. I have no idea how their laws apply to this situation. But as no copyrighted songs are allowed in the users forum then they maybe close to ours. Don’t know for sure.
If I can dig up that article I’ll point you to it.
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I misunderstood, Mario, Please accept my apology.
I agree with what you're saying
No need to apologize my friend. Most of the time I know what I’m trying to say but sometimes I don’t type my thoughts out very well.
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Yep, I did forget that PG was in Canada. I have no idea how their laws apply to this situation. But as no copyrighted songs are allowed in the users forum then they maybe close to ours.
And again, is PG an "internet provider"? By the logic suggested, whoever provides that jack where PG plugs their connection in would be liable.
Quite a fascinating topic, actually.
When I was in the debate, I asked the RIAA rep "How then do you justify that authors of books have their books read and the enjoyment derived from those books by people who do not buy them? It is called "the library". How many people signed out "The STand", and Stephen King never got a dime out of all those people enjoying his book for free. How is it that you aren't trying to close down the libraries because they have CDs that people can sign out and, if they choose to, copy them?"
I also pointed out that they were bullies and only went after easy prey just to get their name in the paper and their message across. Their representative, I cannot reveal her name but it rhymes with "chosen", told me that she was not concerned with printed matter, only sound recordings, and would not comment. Cowardly response.
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Yes Eddie your “whoever provides the jack” statement is what I got out of that article.
Very good analogy about books and CDs and the libraries. That is a very good point!
On a side note my wife worked at a library that was getting rid of their albums and going all CDs. The librarian knew that I was a musician and allowed me first crack at the collection. I scored about 100 really good jazz/blues albums in mint condition. Plus she was giving them away. The rock ones were all scratched up.
So let’s end this friendly discussion with peace to all.
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Mario...NO I didn't infer that you were accusing me of stealing copyrights!! NO worries.
PG is NOT an ISP...Internet Service Provider. PG doesn't provide ACCESS to the internet...it just has a domain on the internet as many of us do.
As for copying COPYRIGHTED material...even ONE copy and even to share with a friend...yes, under many (but not all) circumstances that would be illegal because making copies is one of the EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS of the authors which are protected under the Copyright Act. Sharing for free only makes the remedies less severe relative to copying with a commercial intent.
BUT...there IS an exemption for "educational purposes" (and other exemptions) that would make sharing as we are describing it not illegal.
BUT...BUT...as has been pointed out, my question entirely AVOIDED the whole subject of copyright violations because I was only talking about changes/arrangements.
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[<...>Personally I can’t see why it’s illegal for someone to do a copy then email it to a friend. No money is changing hands.<...>
Money changing hands has absolutely nothing to do with it. If you sing "Happy Birthday" to your loved one in the privacy of your own USA home without paying a fee to Warner Chappell you are breaking the copyright laws and could technically be put in jail for 5 years and/or pay a quarter of a million dollar fine ($250,000.00) plus Warner Chappell's attorney fees. Not that anybody is going to do that - it would be bad publicity for Warner. (If a business does it the jail term and penalties can be doubled.)
Giving away a song with a melody or signature lick is against the law - period. It doesn't matter if money is changing hands or not.
So before sharing songs you must consider:
- The likelihood of being caught (the risk)- admittedly very small unless ASCAP, BMI or one of the others decide to make an example out of you
- The possible penalties if you are caught
- Your own moral ethics - do unto others as you would have them do to you?
- Your personal reputation with others
I don't agree with all the provisions of the copyright laws, -- but the corporate entities that spend millions of dollars on Super PACs want to get something back from their investment (tacit bribe), and so we are saddled with very strict laws and regulations that favor the corporation, not the constituent.
If I were benevolent dictator, things would be much different (no I'm not running for the job and will not accept it even if nominated). If I were benevolent dictator, the greedy robber barons who are now running this country would probably assassinate me.
And I am not about to tell you what you should or should not do, except, please don't share my style files as I don't make that much money and live paycheck to paycheck like everybody else.
Funny thing about to me is this: - If I were to invent something that would cure cancer, I'd get 17 years of patent protection before it fell in the public domain.
- If I write a simply one-chord song with a 6 word lyric, I am guaranteed protection for the rest of my life and my heirs (or Warner Chappell if they bought it from my heirs) would get 75 years of protection after I die.
To me this says that a one-chord song is more important under the law than a cure for cancer.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_service_providerLike above, "Devils Advocate".... PG Music is a company, this company has a set of websites. These websites reside on a Web HOST provider. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_hosting_servicePlain english ISP Comcast Internet Service provider, SkyBlue Internet service Provider Digitalpath.net Internet service provider. A "Router" or "Re-Router". My understanding is they are a point where you gain access to any websites on the net. My hierarchy description. 1. Internet Service Provider. 2. Website Hosting Provider ( I have many sites on Lunarpages.com) unlimited GB of use. 3. PG Music's home page http://www.pgmusic.com/index.html which resides on a number 2 above. 4. Pages within number 3 above. In some cases, these may be stand alone sites. 5. Content resides on number 2 above or clouds(below), songs, video's pictures, etc. Going back to number one, if they have a mail service storage, then songs, and other protected materials could be stored on their system. Now throw in Cloud computing. Mass Storage centers all over the world. I purchased 111 50's & 60's mp3's thru Amazon for about $6.00. Got two things with that purchase, cloud storage, and also downloadable mp3's. The amazon cloud still has copies of all of my music purchases. I can play on any device real-time from the cloud, or download and then play. How bout them apples.
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This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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