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Copy. Now I understand what you meant and that is a typical PC issue, it is not the YRG's, or any external (or even internal) MIDI controllers' “issue.”
However, I fully appreciate that even when latency is SMALL inside a PC/laptop it can be disconcerting/distracting [I’m not getting sucked into a “discussion” about this or that ASIO driver or sound card (aka audio card) - I’ll let others drill down on that one].
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I'll be interested to see a review by one of our memebers of the NEW controller that's actually tailored to the size and specs of a real guitar!
It kinda begs the question, ...... what were they thinking when the FIRST version wasn't tailored to the "size and specs of a REAL guitar"!!!!!!!
Why use a guitar shape unless it's comparable to the real thing????
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Regarding the small size of the YRG:
My guess is that they were originally just aiming at the kids playing Guitar Hero (as it is also a game controller)and maybe unexpectedly came up with technology suitable for a full size once they saw serious musicians going for it also.
According to the $500 pledge promotional for the first 100 people (aimed at raising $$ for the development of the YRG PRO) it will retail at $899.
"YRG-Pro | Innovator Special: One YRG-Pro in black or white. Gig bag included. $899.99 Value "
Just a guess.
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Concur with carkins
It was/is a game controller FIRST. So from that perspective it couldn't dominate the usable "space”
As far as the YRG Pro if/when it comes to fruition I hope someone does review it. However, at $900 I wouldn’t be buying/reviewing it unless it can REPLACE a REAL guitar with a controller attached (e.g., Parker, Roland Ready Strat or any guitar with a GK-3 attached).
Even at today’s inflated prices $900 is getting into the serious realm – so even as a “just a controller” the YRG Pro needs to be a serious “PRO” everything (a method to get open string pull-offs – there is none now unless you capo the first fret and tune down, finger vibrato, a MUCH better string palm mute, standard fret scale – length, etc., ).
For $900 I doubt it would sell many if it were just the same tech in a larger guitar shape. But I didn't buy Microsoft, Apple, or Google at $5 either.
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Depending on features, the YRG is starting to look interesting.
Alan Holdsworth's Synthaxe originally went for 10,000 British pounds in 1986, or somewhere between $15,000 to $20,000 US. One recently changed hands for around $5K. If the advanced YRG does a fraction of what the Synthaxe did, i.e., drives a modern synth yet retains standard guitar articulation and perhaps more (the Synthaxe was available with breath modulation), it's a bargain.
I am NOT clamoring for me or anyone else to get one. I have a twenty-year-old GK-3 equipped Ibanez Strat copy to control my Roland VG-88. Together they totaled about $450. (I installed the GK myself.) Unfortunately, although I have a great synth module (Roland JV-1010), I don't have pitch-to-MIDI conversion. This would take extra hardware, which would probably put me at right around . . . wait for it . . . $900 or $1000.
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Ryszard, If you have a GK installed on a Strat copy and a VG-88 you already HAVE pitch to MIDI and you COULD control the JV-1010 via the VG-88 (unless I just misread the VG-88 users manual)?? I “control” a whole RACK of synths (plus three keyboards & and PC SOFT synths) via GK enable guitars through/via my GR-50, which I now use only as a pitch to midi box. The internal GR-50 D-110-like sounds, while quaint, are not my first, second, or even third “go to’s” anymore (but once in a while – they are fun nonetheless). As far a HW – a quick search a for a NEW GK3 via Musicians Friend is $219 (a used one would be cheaper even a older GK2a which is+ what I have on one guitar) but now we need a interface Before we go on: I will assume whomever is interested in this topic, as I said before, can already PLAY a guitar and has at least ONE guitar they own. It doesn’t not have to be a electric guitar, so even inexpensive acoustic 6-stirng “starter” guitar will work. Although it must have steel strings – nylon string will not work. Then a GI-10 for $129 http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Roland-GI-10...=item4168e19728or GR-33 WITH GK2 - current bid is $102 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Roland-GR-33-Gui...=item2a20f46c90or as MAC mentioned earlier a GR-1 for BIN of $185 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLAND-GR1-GUITA...=item1c29a7914bThe end result is a REAL guitar (so all the nuance and control of your fingers and picking on real strings and frets) and Pitch to MIDI and MIDI control over other sounds in other modules and the PC for WELL under (or near) $400 and I wasn’t trying to get the cheapest solution. as far as Alan Holdsworth well ... he's in a whole other league. Even if we/I were outfitted with HIS equipment - he could probably play circles around US (me for sure) even if all he had was the EXISITING $140 YRG. He has been playing synth guitar(s) for so long that every type, trick, nuance, method, and shortcoming work-around he already has built into his muscle memory. Larry
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The VG-88 literature is unintentionally misleading. I bought it on the assumption that it had PTM; it doesn't. (No regrets otherwise--it's an awesome device. I do not say this lightly.) The newer VG-99 does, and has a lot of other cool features as well, but at over $1000 I can't go there. I wish I'd known about the GI-10 earlier. I had assumed that PTM from GK pickups started at about $500 and went up from there.
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My foot in my mouth - apologies
I just dug out the deeper specs it doesn't XMIT MIDI notes, etc. (how dumb was that!)
But the GI-10 is still on EBAY :-)
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I didn’t watch the vids so I didn’t realize it was actually meant primarily as a game controller.
If the full size controller is gonna be in the $900 range, then I’m afraid I’d have to pass. Just to match the neck width and depth, scale length, controller size to that of an actual guitar would just take a little more plastic, but not $700 worth! LOL.
It is a cool concept though.
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