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Just an aside for Danny. I did sound for a while for a band and the leader, the business guy, the guy who owned all the PA and the trailer, was, as is often the case, the weakest player in his own band. Total poser who thought that he could hide his lack of skills (he was the "rhythm" guitar player and could not solo at all) by changing guitar every song. And as he changed them every song, he would stop the band and tune. 2 songs per set would see him pick up his Rickie 12 string, so he had to tune 12 strings instead of 6. And for some strange reason, he tuned 1 to 6, so by the time he tuned the 6th string, the change in neck tension from tuning those thick bottom strings would see his top string out of tune and he started over. Reminds me of the Pete Barbuti bit where he was the 4th trumpet player and couldn't play at all but they couldn't fire him because he owned the station wagon with the luggage rack.
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Pete Barbuti . . . had the pleasure of meeting him once in Aspen Colorado, very nice, and of course very funny guy. Of course his humor is directed at or either attributed to musicians and his musical experiences.
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I've been in a few bands where the person with the weakest musical chops had the best public relations chops and therefore was worth his weight for his contributions in the business department.
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I've been in a few bands where the person with the weakest musical chops had the best public relations chops and therefore was worth his weight for his contributions in the business department.
Yup, been there a lot, & made the best $$ also....goes back to my "how they kept getting gig's" thought.... 
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Back when our trio was playing different clubs every weekend in Nawlins I wish we could have found another band member "no matter their music chops", just as long as they could load in and out that heavy B3 and the equally as heavy Leslie!
I seriously thought of running an ad stating: Wanted musician to join seasoned trio. Any instrument, experience not requirred just as long as you can bench press 300 lbs and own a van with an easy lift tailgate.
Just saying . . .
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I played in a couple of bands with B3 players. Being a sax player with a light load, I was always "volunteered" to be one of the B3 'pall bearers'. And back then we used those huge "voice of the theater" speaker enclosures for the PA.
Things are smaller and lighter now, and that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned. Our heaviest object is probably about 40 pounds or less. The B3 was over 400. But the B3 sounded fantastic. The new B3 simulators sound very good, but not quite the same as that B with a big Leslie speaker - but they sure are portable - which IMHO more than makes up for their slight shortcomings!
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It is at this time you really appreciate those 25 or so fans that show up every gig!
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Our heaviest object is probably about 40 pounds or less.
Have you noticed the mathematical relationship between your age and the weight of your gear? I have!
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Our heaviest object is probably about 40 pounds or less.
Have you noticed the mathematical relationship between your age and the weight of your gear? I have!
Yes . . . and also the size of the wheels on my equipment cart!
PS: I am thinking that if I am lucky enough to be doing this 5 - 10 more years I may look into a Rascal with a trailer hitch. 
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By the time you pay "people" to do the heavy lifting, you lose money on every gig.... hardest part for me is finding 8 people to carry me in like they did the Roman Emperors.... and yes, I need 8. Maybe 10 by now as fat as I am getting.... This is why I specified cremation in my will. I can't come up with 8 people who care enough about me that they'd want to be pall bearer....
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And the mathematical relationship between my age and my weight.
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Closest I can get here is width = height x 2.....
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Our heaviest object is probably about 40 pounds or less.
Have you noticed the mathematical relationship between your age and the weight of your gear? I have!
Most definitely, although I'm not sure of the exact equation or formula. And also as the band shrunk to a duo, and there were fewer arms to lift things, lighter gear got more attractive.
My old speaker system consisted of a sub-woofer cab with 2 - 12" speakers and it was built out of 1/2" wood plus two satellite mid/tweets. It sounded great but that 60 pound woofer became a pain in the back to lift - I do one-nighters. Leilani is strong and helps, but being the bigger person, I bear the heaviest loads.
My new speakers have 15" woofers and a mid/high horn in the same enclosure. Plastic enclosures and Neodymium magnets - 32 pounds each. Much better.
My rack with the mixer, couple of sound modules, sonic maximizer and FX unit weighs a little bit more than one of the speaker cabs. The power amp is in a separate rack case, and it has wheels attached, so I stack them and they wheel in.
Doing one-nighters means balancing the weight of each item vs. the number of trips back and forth to the van. I unload the van, put things on the carts and Leilani wheels them in. Then as I come in, the customers who don't see me unloading the van (the heavy work) sometimes think Leilani does all the work. We both have a good sense of humor, so I tell them that "Luggin' and totin' is women's work" in my best exaggerated hillbilly accent. Then Leilani will usually add that unloading the van is a lot more work than wheeling the stuff in.
I don't mind bringing the gear in but for some reason, it's heavier on the way out. 
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Or you could exchange Leilani for a Russian weighlifter..... I was always leary about dating a woman who could bench press me.....
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I love my Bose stick system of five years. I've used it in almost all kinds of music. Almost all - I also have my heads and cabs for certain situations: concert stages, too large outdoor shows, etc.
Nothing is too heavy nor awkward.
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Making it in music - Regular royalty checks with lots of zeros. LOL!
Making it in life - what rharv said. 
Yeah? Well I've got that for sure.
Unfortunately the zeros come first in the number but......
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Hey Steve, I bought one of your band CDs!!! That should have brought you a dime or two.... And I bought it many years ago, so had you deposited that 20 cents in a high interest bearing account.....
Those who don't know, Steve fronts an outstanding band with a great horn section!!
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