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Show me a more recognizable vocal sound.
Trust me on this one. I'm DEFINITELY not putting him down. I'm a big fan. I wouldn't change a thing about his voice.
I hate it when someone tries to sing like Dylan. Dylan's voice has to be one of the hardest on the planet to mimic. That's why I'm so critical when someone attempts it. No one on the planet can sing as bad as Dylan and have it sound so good!  
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Show me a more recognizable vocal sound.
Trust me on this one. I'm DEFINITELY not putting him down. I'm a big fan. I wouldn't change a thing about his voice.
I hate it when someone tries to sing like Dylan. Dylan's voice has to be one of the hardest on the planet to mimic. That's why I'm so critical when someone attempts it. No one on the planet can sing as bad as Dylan and have it sound so good!
Well stated, Bob.
I mean absolutely no disrespect to Dylan. I am entitled to my opinion in saying that he is not a singer. His voice is impossible to mimic and it is not clear and distinct...very nasal but instantly recognizable. That doesn't mean that I enjoy listening to his voice. He mumbles and often sounds like he has a mouthful of marbles but his most devoted fans, and I include myself among his fans, forgive that and listen at some deeper level. I have the 4 CD box set wherein everybody who is anybody in music does a tribute to his music and it is the most beautiful concert I have ever heard.
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Show me a more recognizable vocal sound.
Tiny Tim was "recognizable". So was William Hung "recognizable". Were either of them any good?
Dylan had a style and it served him well, but nobody stated anything to the contrary, just that he wasn't known as a guitar player nor was he a crooner. He wrote a lot of great stuff, but I was not all that huge a fan.
I honestly think if Dylan came around again now NOT in a time like the 60s when drug use was underground and the "peace and love generation" were the record buying public he would be just another good folk song writer. 40-50 years of music evolution later, the pond is a lot bigger.
And that same logic could be probably applied to a lot of artists from back then, but we are only talking about this one. It's 2012 and to this day I can't figure out how the Grateful Dead was popular. Jerry Garcia and a bunch of guys named Joe who became famous later BECAUSE they played with Jerry Garcia. Bob Weir, Phil Lesh... c'mon.
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I honestly think if Dylan came around again now NOT in a time like the 60s when drug use was underground and the "peace and love generation" were the record buying public he would be just another good folk song writer. 40-50 years of music evolution later, the pond is a lot bigger.
I've heard more than one baby boomer who once enjoyed Dylan's music say they walked out of one of his concerts because it was so bad. Not only is the pond bigger, but the technical improvements in music since the 60s have changed our expectations.
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the technical improvements in music since the 60s have changed our expectations.
Like "auto tune" fixing the vocals of people who can't sing?
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I've heard more than one baby boomer who once enjoyed Dylan's music say they walked out of one of his concerts because it was so bad. Not only is the pond bigger, but the technical improvements in music since the 60s have changed our expectations.
Pat, I tend to agree with most of that but add in the emotional maturity factor. Few of us are still listening to the same music that we did three decades ago. I have matured a lot in three decades. I have actually developed a strong desire to see an opera or Broadway musical. Something that would have been furthest from my mind back then.
These forums have exposed me to a much greater variety of music genre that I would never have explored previously. I was stuck in the same old rut until I heard Matt Finley's Pandora station (for example). I have made a conscious effort to broaden my musical horizons.
It is easy to enjoy home grown music and that is what most of us produce. Its like visiting a dear friend's home and listening to his children entertain with their home-brew variety of music. You don't pick it apart, you simply get absorbed in it and enjoy it for what it is.
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Hi Don, Lovely stories! You must have some very happy memories. Joe G. 
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I honestly think if Dylan came around again now NOT in a time like the 60s when drug use was underground and the "peace and love generation" were the record buying public he would be just another good folk song writer. 40-50 years of music evolution later, the pond is a lot bigger.
And that same logic could be probably applied to a lot of artists from back then, but we are only talking about this one. It's 2012 and to this day I can't figure out how the Grateful Dead was popular. Jerry Garcia and a bunch of guys named Joe who became famous later BECAUSE they played with Jerry Garcia. Bob Weir, Phil Lesh... c'mon.
Eddie, you make some great points. The Beatles were unquestionably great but would they be able to break through the noise today? I guess not unless they caught a lucky break. Too often we neglect to include "dumb luck" when we are appraising the success of our icons! Just being at the front end of the music shift that happened midway through the last century must have been an amazing place to be. And there were lots of people who got to ride that wave because they were in the right place at the right time. Hell, even today I am amazed at the local talent where I live and they are struggling to get by while the charts are chock full of "stars" that are not even 1/2 as talented!
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. . . to this day I can't figure out how the Grateful Dead was popular. Jerry Garcia and a bunch of guys named Joe who became famous later BECAUSE they played with Jerry Garcia. Bob Weir, Phil Lesh... c'mon.
Q: What does a Grateful Dead fan say when the drugs wear off?
A: Oh, wow, man . . . this music sucks!
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Well, this is Canada, and I'm sure Joe and Sally appeared here, in repeat probably. We were good at that. Heck the local radio for Zoomers (boomers with zoom as Mr. Znaimer calls us) has a show from Scotland every week. The old one use to be Scotland calling or some such thing, but for me it's background music while making the family Sunday supper (used to be dinner but too many churchies make it hard), so all come here for my homemade bread/rolls and whatever roast beast or fowl I make, 10 to 20 people, it varies, making merry, and then some homemade music with flute and keys to follow, (maybe).
But Joe, you live on in Youtube, and I listen to that and grin awhile. Trews, 'ach aye, nay'.
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Well, "back in the day" when Mr. Zimmerman's songs were hot stuff that was not only on the charts with his own versions but being covered by hot acts from both sides of the pond who enjoyed success with Dylan's songs as well, Bob himself was telling people openly that he was NOT A SINGER.
Bob Dylan always said that he was a POET.
And so he was.
As for more modern technologies, such as the use of Autotune, I can only quote Mr. Zimmerman concerning the matter:
"The times they are a-changin'..."
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Hi John, I maintain that I have "an oblique sense of the ridiculous"  .......Sally says I have "a really weird sense of humour!"  I'm comforted by telling her....."If you think that my sense of huomour is weird.....wait till you read some of John Conley's posts!"  Keep well my Canadian friend. Joe G.
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Here's that long Luther Perkins intro that I taught Bob Dylan. The video has a false start but otherwise the audio is pretty decent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u77UHNS1q2o
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Great story Don.
Very enjoyable thread.
Later,
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