|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30 |
What is the best way to permanently equalize the volume of a midi track imported to a BIAB arrangement? If I go to Melody, Adjust Volume it only lasts until the next time, then the midi track volume (on the melody track) is right back where it was. I could convert the track to audio and adjust it in Audacity, but surely there is an easier way!
Thanks,
pete
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,122
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,122 |
Not sure Pete. it would seem that if it is on the melody track, and the song is saved with the melody track volume settings where you want them. then it should reopen with the new levels.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,021
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,021 |
You've got to open the sequencer and adjust there and save
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,275
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,275 |
Quote:
If I go to Melody, Adjust Volume it only lasts until the next time, then the midi track volume (on the melody track) is right back where it was.
It's right back to where it was, because volumes for each channel may be assigned within the midi file. With BiaB you may assign volumes for individual channels via the PianoRoll window. Just select some channel and adjust the appropriate controller.
Martin
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 235
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 235 |
Sounds like an MIDI events issue. You might try to open the notation window and click on # (event list) and change velocity levels there. I haven't had the need for it myself since I made my midi files in another program and the volume is ok after importing. I checked the eventlist though and even if it doesnot to seem to support the midi controller 7 for volume, you could still try to change velocity. If the event on the midi track are really a volume issue, which are added into the midi file, this trick probably won't work, unless anyone else knows if and how BiaB can use controller 7. As far as I could see, the eventlist only works for the melody and solo tracks.
You could also try to work in RB, but that also isn't easy I think, but you can record fader movements on the tracks, so you automatize (is this correct English?) the volume.
Third way would be to adjust the volume and or velocity controller data allready in the sequencer you made the songs with (if you still got that).
I'll be back...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 235
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 235 |
Citaat:
....unless anyone else knows if and how BiaB can use controller 7.
Anyone?
I'll be back...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,275
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,275 |
Quote:
Anyone?
Try re-reading my comment.
Btw -> even the event list does support controller 7 ...
Martin
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697 |
Try saving with patches and harmony and include the melody track. That may override any imbedded track info. Otherwise, this is typical of a midi file that is downloaded from the web. Whatever equipment was used to create the file in the first place put all the cc info in there, Biab is merely reading it.
I find Real Band much easier to work with for something like this. In RB, open up the event list, look for CC7's and strip them out, then import the track back into Biab or just do the whole song in RB in the first place. Remember, RB is Biab plus a 48 track sequencer. Pretty cool. People will talk about using Sonar or Pro Tools or whatever other sequencer usually because of simple familiarity, RB will do 'almost' everything they will plus most of the Biab functions plus Real Tracks/Drums that they don't have.
Bob
Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30 |
Quote:
You could also try to work in RB, but that also isn't easy I think, but you can record fader movements on the tracks, so you automatize (is this correct English?) the volume.
Thanks for the suggestions, I must spend some time with RealBand. It sounds like the best way to do this without using another product. The "automatize" should have been "automate".
pete
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30 |
Quote:
Try saving with patches and harmony and include the melody track. ..... Remember, RB is Biab plus a 48 track sequencer.
The "save with patches and harmony" didn't work for me. I know I must spend some time with RB where I can work with imported midi tracks. Thanks for your comments.
pete
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30 |
Quote:
Quote:
With BiaB you may assign volumes for individual channels via the PianoRoll window. Just select some channel and adjust the appropriate controller.
Mmmm ... much easier said than done I think. I did find the Controller for a selected channel, but never did find how to adjust the volume. I'll keep looking (through the help file)!
pete
Last edited by Pete Nicholls; 03/31/09 03:00 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,275
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,275 |
Quote:
I did find the Controller for a selected channel, but never did find how to adjust the volume.
Select controller #7 (volume). Adjustments are easily achieved graphically via dragging up or down those vertical lines showing up in the lower part of the PianoRoll window. Those controllers may also get created at any point in the midi file just via clicking with the mouse somewhere in the PianoRoll controller editing area.
Martin
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 3,161
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 3,161 |
I endorse Bob's comments, but if you do need to adjust volumns in BIAB use the Sequencer Button, choose Sequencer on Melody track then in the Sequencer Window click on the right hand box for each Channel for a drop down meneu and adjust the velocity by a number say 10. Careful, as overuse has a Compression effect with all the velocities at 127 maximum.
Lyn
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 235
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 235 |
Citaat:
Citaat:
Anyone?
Try re-reading my comment.
Btw -> even the event list does support controller 7 ...
Ah thanks, I must have overlooked that. Now I see the controller yes and it works thanks. So now there is also another question rising from that: What does the button add/scale do?
I'll be back...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,275
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,275 |
You don't like manuals, do you. Those buttons steer mouse editing modes for editing graphic events.
Martin
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,673
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,673 |
Hello Pete,
Here are the steps for another way to do it, that doesn't involve the piano roll window.
1. Open the Sequencer window (melody track) so you can get a clear picture of what channels are in the MIDI file and what instruments they correspond to.
2. Close the sequencer window and open the Even List window.
3. Find controller # 7 for each channel and adjust it how you want (0-127), by double-clicking on it and changing the 'value'. Also, to be sure, check if controller #11 (expression) is used in the file.
Note that some other ways of changing the 'volume' actually change the velocities of the individual notes, which is not always desirable. For example the 'Adjust Velocities' item in the Sequencer window, and the Melody | Edit Melody track | Adjust Level menu item.
Andrew
PG Music Inc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 30 |
Andrew, I find Event Edit List in the Notation Window, but don't find any "Controller's" to adjust. Can yu be more specific?
Thanks,
pete
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,275
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,275 |
Press 'Insert' and in the 'Event Type to Edit' dialog select 'Control Change'. Then you'll be presented with a bunch of Controllers -> Volume is #7; Expression (#11) is likely more appropriate for introducing some dynamics to the playing.
Martin
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 235
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 235 |
Citaat:
You don't like manuals, do you.
How did you guess? 
I'll be back...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!
We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
Happy New Year!
Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.
Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!
Season's Greetings!
Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!
The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.
Team PG
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,738
Posts795,599
Members39,946
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean