I have to wonder if the Ultra Plus Pak. and Everything Pak. will not be avalible on a HD in the future for first time buyers and version updates? Could this be because of the bitching and complaining about cheaper pricing from venders and unfair pricing for new customers who happened to buy in the middle months of a past release? If so, shame on you. I still get updates on an HD once in a while. It is a no hassle way of keeping up to date and some file storage just in case. This time I selected CD's to include the 16 Pak. A two week wait, I was told. Leon