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I printed out version 2008.5 of Real Band and Band in a Box. RB was 292 pages and BiaB was 510 pages. It looks like the latest version is 332 for RB and 608 for BiaB. I wonder if there would be a copyright issue if someone sold copies to someone else. (For $100 I would think about it.) I would gladly pay $50 for a 'real' copy.
PG can stick up for itself but YES...selling a copyrighted work as the BIAB manual certainly is would be copyright infringement...pure and simple.
Technically, you couldn't even copy it at GIVE it away because copying is one of the rights reserved exclusively to the owner of the copyright. (there are certain "fair use" exceptions and it would be up to the owner to decide what...if anything...they want to do about it).
Best, Jim
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I hope that they start supplying a proper ePub version instead of a PDF Only. Converting a PDF to ePub is NOT a smooth process, especially with a lot of graphics! LOL
i5 3.20GHz, 32gb RAM, 1tb SSD OS, 12tb HDD, 4gb gForce vid card, 32" monitor, Audient id44, Win10 x64, BiaB/RB 2023, Reaper 6,IK Multimedia Total Studio 3.5 MAX, Waves 10
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Hi All, Not sure if this is going to be of help to any one, but I hope it is: I recently received my BIAB on a Hard Disk Drive, and it came with a printed Manual / Users Guide, and also a small blue Booklet titled: 'Band-In-A-Box Version 2013 for Windows; New Features Guide'. The BIAB manual itself, is actually version 2012.5, so I guess everything in the 2013 edition of BIAB is exactly the same as what it was in the 2012 edition, EXCEPT for the 'New Features' for version 2013, which the blue Booklet (as noted above), covers. The 'New Features' Booklet is about the same size as the Manual. The manual is 294 pages which includes the Index (6 pages) and the Registration Form (page 294). It appears to be the same measurements as the previous Manuals I have heard people describe here. It is Spiral bound. For those considering printing off the Manual from PDF format, (perhaps in a larger Font size) and then having it professionally bound,then you could also approach your local College / University as most Universities operate professional binding services. I get a LOT of my documents professionally bound at my University and they do a great job for a reasonable cost. I get my documents either regular bound or spiral bound. I can not recall the actual costs of binding a large document, but I think the price is comparable to Office Depot et al. Happy Holidays,  - Dome
BIAB Audiophile, Reaper, Kontakt Full Edition, Roland A90-EX Master Controller MIDI keyboard, Windows 7 x64
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Sep 2004
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Hi All,
Not sure if this is going to be of help to any one, but I hope it is:
I recently received my BIAB on a Hard Disk Drive, and it came with a printed Manual / Users Guide, and also a small blue Booklet titled: 'Band-In-A-Box Version 2013 for Windows; New Features Guide'.
The BIAB manual itself, is actually version 2012.5, so I guess everything in the 2013 edition of BIAB is exactly the same as what it was in the 2012 edition, EXCEPT for the 'New Features' for version 2013, which the blue Booklet (as noted above), covers. The 'New Features' Booklet is about the same size as the Manual.
The manual is 294 pages which includes the Index (6 pages) and the Registration Form (page 294). It appears to be the same measurements as the previous Manuals I have heard people describe here. It is Spiral bound.
For those considering printing off the Manual from PDF format, (perhaps in a larger Font size) and then having it professionally bound,then you could also approach your local College / University as most Universities operate professional binding services. I get a LOT of my documents professionally bound at my University and they do a great job for a reasonable cost. I get my documents either regular bound or spiral bound. I can not recall the actual costs of binding a large document, but I think the price is comparable to Office Depot et al.
Happy Holidays,

- Dome
Hmmm...I got the EverythingPak on a HD but got no printed manual...except the brief "New in 2013" booklet.
I assume that is because the manual wasn't ready when I made my purchase. But I'm REALLY surprised that a University or other commercial printer would duplicate a copyrighted work without written permission to do so.
Is there a standard permission statement in the Manual??
If not...the mere COPYING of the manual is illegal. (The right to copy is one that is specifically reserved to the copyright owner).
I've been turned down by the Kinkos/Staples of the world unless I had written permission.
I'm just sayin'
Jim
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Hi Jim,
My suggestion of members getting their printed PDF Manuals BOUND by a College / University, was simply that - a suggestion. I was in NO way, condoning the breach of Copyrighted material, or even suggesting that a University will do this.
I made NO mention of the University actually 'Copying' ANY documents. I merely mentioned the University as an alternate choice for those members who have wanted to have their documents or whatever, SPIRAL BOUND but have been unsuccessful in finding a place to do it. I also mentioned the University, simply as an 'alternative' to Copy Depot et al. just in case some members weren't aware that many Universities have their own Document BINDING Service available. I was making reference to the job of having documents BOUND, (NOT copied) in which ever manner the University offers.
**** To be clear to all those who read my posts on this subject: I was NOT in any way suggesting that members breach any copyright laws. I was offering a simple suggestion for an alternate place where people could have their material professionally BOUND.
Perhaps it would be a lot easier for all concerned, who want to actually COPY their BIAB PDF manual (for their OWN SOLE USE, so they can increase the Font size and highlight the sections they want),is 1) Ask PG Music for written permission. 2) For PG Music to give it's users 'PERMISSION' to do so within BIAB PDF Manual, just as they do when PG Music suggests in their Users' Manual for BIAB users to COPY the BIAB files to another Hard Drive, if the user so desires. Enough said....
- Dome
BIAB Audiophile, Reaper, Kontakt Full Edition, Roland A90-EX Master Controller MIDI keyboard, Windows 7 x64
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