ROG, while i completely understand your thoughts, it is not about making RB something it is not. It is about refining features. The current system is okay, and does work. But not being able to see the wave file as you adjust the automation is like being blind in a way. You have to do a lot of fine tuning to get the start and stop exactly where you want. and making small adustments is harder to do. Sure it can be used, but having a line thru the wave file and being able to add nodes exactly where you want, without guessing or being pretty close, would be a very big advantage.

Since the ability to make volume, pan, and aux send changes exists i imagine it is less of a change to refine the way it is implimented. Having done this kind of automation in Cakewalk, Reaper, MTS, Sonar, Acid for the last 10 years i am acutely aware of the difference. I have used Multitrackstudio for years and it is certainly not main stream. It's automation is similar to RB in that you add a fader plug into the tracks aux send windoww, which opens up separately over the track. Kind of like opening the piano roll. The advantage is that you can see the wave file ghosted behind the fader line. Maybe the route PG could look at is to ghost the wave file in the piano roll, and allow the automation chages to be made over that. change the physical view of the automated chages to dots with lines between, rather than the way it fills in between the points so that you can see what your doing better. Or make the current automation more transparent so that you can see thru it.This way the system stays the same but it is refined.

I am as staunch a supporter of RB and not trying to make it like the main stream as you and any. I have spoken out strongly in the past about leaving the GUI alone, and work on refining the tools. To me the automation, the VSTi timing, and the assignable input feature need to be refined. The are very useful tools.

You ask a great question though, what kind of music do I do. Mostly folk. country, rock, and pop. I have maybe done two electronica type songs way early when learning to play with the Acid Pro software.

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