I understand how you feel Stan, but if you can understand Sonar you can understand amlost anything. I stare at the screen jumble that Sonar has become, and shake my poor old balding head. That thing is so cluttered. I know you can template that thing up, but it drives me nuts trying to get things open and set then saved and next time, back to that spot.

I guess the reason i got comfortable with RB is exactly what you said, workflow. I was always comfortable with the older cakewalks products, and with the MTS product. I started working on a full folder of live performance files and i did them in RB cause it has the chord and lyrics window which was a big help to me. Once i had about 50 or so files i found i was just comfortable there.

When i went back to tracking an original song or two for me and for a friend, i just stayed there. and the projects got done with ease. It really is about what each person is familiar with and gets work done with.

I actually went back then and tracked a song in RB, Sonar, and Reaper. I used a base file from BiaB and moved it over and then tracked the song in each to see what worked well for me.

Sonar did a sellar job of the finished product and i was impressed at how some of it's features worked. the only downside was the GUI was to me confusing and something i opened up i had problems bringing them back once i closed them.

Reaper also did a great job, but i tired of having to setup all the routing and stuff, and it seemed like a lot of work. I sure is a flxable beast, but that can also slow down the pocess, and leave you fiddling around more.

Rb on the other hand was the easiest and i was very suprised that the end result song was every bit as good, and i was actually done far faster than the other two.

Just for grins i went back again and move the base files over to MTS and tracked the song there as well. The old dog was easy, solid, stable, and got the job done fast and efficient. I am still stunned that more people do not use that software, at least as a compliment to the great PG stuff.

HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.