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Right. BIAB opened by MuseScore, exported to Sibelius via Music XML: there are possibilities when it all works correctly.


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I haven't actually tried it, but one work-around that comes to mind is to use the "Realize Chord Symbols" plugin in Sibelius. That would use the chords symbols in your Sib file to generate a new track with your symbols translated into the appropriate notes. Import that track into BIAB and have BIAB translate it back to chord symbols. As said, I haven't tried it, but I bet it would work quite well.

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Philip, would you let us know if this works? I would bring my Sibelius up to date if it did this well.


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So when I have found a way to do so, a "workaround" -- I share my methods with others, so that at least they might be able to find a way to get things done until such time as we might get our wish.




That is very honourable.

I´m just in this situation - for more than 1 1/2 year I did write down the most commun 1000 Jazz/Latin Standards in Lead-sheet form on Sibelius 7.1..

Every Standard fits on one page (this is good for tablet-pc applications). There are always four bars in a row. The changes are all revised several times. There are no alternative changes. It is just a very clear and clean lay-out. Side reading makes fun again, a lot of musicians said to me seeing it.
Now I am trying to make play-alongs for every single tune. Having 1000 tunes to do there exists a need of doing it practical and if there exists a chance to transfer chord changes from Sibelius to BiaB I´ll take it. But probably I have to do it by hand.
Anyway, thanks for the assistance

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If your songs are mostly standards, why not start by finding a collection of already entered BIAB songs on the web. I think over the years I have downloaded thousands and thousands. Use that as a starting point. Then you just have to make the modest changes, maybe transpose to get it in the key you want, etc, and then choose an appropriate style (since many of the files I have found were made before BIAB had the plethora of styles now available). I would think that should save you some time.

Here are a couple of places to look:

Allanah's BIAB Files

MIDI Studio Consortium

MMissary Music

Real Book

Of course, there will be a lot of duplicates amongst them, but free is free.

Also, don't forget that you can also purchase Bob Norton's BIAB Fake Books, where he has taken most of the currently available Fake Books and has already entered chords and selected an appropriate style. Not free, but well worth the money in my opinion. And while you're there, don't forget to check out Bob's great styles for sale as well. [Disclaimer: I don't work for Bob; I am just a satisfied user of his work, which has saved me a ton of time to do the same thing]

Norton's BIAB Fake Disks

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Hi Matt,

I'm not sure you'd need to update. I use Sib 7.1 but I'm pretty sure I've used this in older versions. You might have to download the plug-in from the Sibelius website though.

I just did a test on a big band arrangement of Up A Lazy River (Si Zentner - Arr. Bob Florence). Just generated the chord notes from the chord symbols in the guitar part and then exported chord notes and bass track to a midi file. Imported in BIAB and had it interpret the chords.

Results were o.k. but oftentimes some higher chord extensions were missed. Eg Ab9 was interpreted as Ab7, G7(b9) was interpreted as G7. The missing notes were present in the Sib file so it's really a matter of BIAB missing them, not Sibelius.

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Now you tell me. (just kidding, but I did update to version 7 anyway for other reasons)

Thanks again for this tip.


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