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Thanks for asking, Peter.
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I see no need for a separate joke forum. If there is a problem with the joke threads that are currently active, I dont see it. Works fine for me.
If you look at LAST POST in the JOKE topic then you don't have to scroll through 50+ pages to find the most recent additions. You may have to scroll back a page or two.
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How about just adding a NON-MUSIC related "General Discussion" forum that can encompass everything already mentioned?
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I'm starting to change my mind on the "Clubhouse" idea. Maybe we could build a treehouse with a rope ladder, and pull it up so none of the uncool kids could get in. 
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Some other suggestions for forums:
- Introduce Yourself!
I've seen this on other forums, self-exaplanatory, lets people post info about themselves, musical interests etc.
- Custom Style Shop
These would be posts listing instruments used to make a new style. This could just be a text listing of the RealTracks/MIDI SuperTracks numbers, or a link to a style if you've made one (ie- using the combinations). Or maybe its just one of our styles, with an instrument removed (which makes it sound better). Maybe with a link to an audio of how the style sounds. These would be free for anyone to use, no restrictions.
- Video Tutorials for BiaB
A dedicated forum for the various video tutorials, one topic for each video. Allowing comments, or suggestions for new videos, or posting your own tutorials. (the tips and tricks have some of these, but users have requested a dedicated area for videos.
Have Fun!
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Just think though that if there are too many forums then all the info and questions abotu biab will get scattered all over the place, will help nobody especially the new folks.
Maybe 2 or 3 new forums would be ok for a start to see how it goes.
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I would like to see a forum dedicated to Mixing and Mastering, with video tutorials for Realband.
I also like the idea of a songwriters forum, where you could have topical reading where folks could share nuggets of wisdom about songwriting, as well as collaboration section if someone so chooses.
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Hi Peter,
+1 for the Custom Styles, I think this would add additional insight to using the RealTracks & MIDI.
It would also open up many different ideas to users of Band In A Box and Realband.
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Peter:
I think that before you add more forums, and proliferation of info, the search function and the archive storage need improvement.
Are you in the process of trying out new forum software?? Of course it would be an adjustment for us, but, IMO, well worth it.
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+1 for the videos forum.
I like the idea of more specific forums rather than one general discussion. Specific forums save time.
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Yes, improvement (upgrade) of the forum software is planned, and that should bring a better search, and new features.
Have Fun!
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I've been on a number of forums, and I've often posted only to the Off-Topic forum because it seems to be viewed and 'open' enough for discussions rather than more targeted, narrow question-answer topics that leave less room for discussion. One of the broadest, most useful forums that I belong to is MakeUseOf.com, and they have one of the most useful "Ask" sections I've ever seen for technology related topics. They have professional, company moderators that view, edit, reword and clarify if necessary, all posts before they are published. There is a wait time for this between the time you post and the time you can view your post. When entering the ASK section, each user sees ALL posts - regardless of category, so interested parties can view the equivalent of 'all forums' from clicking on one bookmark, without the need to subscribe or do any sort of active filtering. What keeps this website useful is the moderators and the TAGS. Each question, as part of the moderator review, is TAGGED to one or more consistent categories that reflects the areas it touches upon. Each single question may of course have MULTIPLE tags, and each tag is actually a link that users can click if they'd like to view only questions on a particular topic. http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/I think this type of tagging would be useful in the PG forums, but then again I'm not sure UBB threads allows it. If tags could be implemented across forums, while preserving the existing structure, that could also be useful for those looking for targeted information. Also - the MakeUseOf.com Ask forum is quite different in the amount of active maintenance required, and the lag between posting and viewing your topic : ) But perhaps some of their procedures might be incorporated at some level. By the way, in addition to the MakeUseOf Ask section, the main site is comprised of articles written on how to get the most out of the internet via the free or low-cost internet web-based tools and utilities. The articles always open explaining the need for the tool, and 'selling it' as "You could really use this because...". The articles are also tagged, and as in the Ask section, one can search all articles having particular tags by clicking on the TAG name link. This would also lend itself to what goes on here in the Forum post section. Were I ever to design a website, I particularly like the MakeUseOf format. Has anyone been on other websites/forums where they've found design particularly useful and navigable ?
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A plugins forum might be useful. People could review plugs and make recommendations etc.
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I'd like to suggest a new forum called "Monthly BIAB Songwriting Challenge" or maybe the more inclusive and less competitive "Monthly BIAB Songwriting Gathering."
The idea would be invite forum members to write and submit a song based on that month's theme: for example, a road song, or a river song, or a song about a city, a tree, etc. There are hundreds of possibilities.
Forum members could send in suggestions and each month one theme would be selected.
I used to belong to a songwriting group where we did this weekly. I was a bit skeptical at first, but it actually was a lot of fun to hear the variety of songs people would write from a common idea.
I think it would be a great showcase for BIAB's strengths and provide an opportunity for many forum-members to unite in a single goal.
It seems like the rules would be pretty simple:
1) Write to that month's theme
2) The backing tracks should be mostly, but not entirely, BIAB/RB
You could give awards each month for best melody, best lyrics, best use of BIAB/RB tracks.
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Has anyone been on other websites/forums where they've found design particularly useful and navigable ?
I actually think that this PG Board is one of the easiest to navigate compare to all I've come across. The trick is to just apply the KISS method. Yes, search could use a little work, but going nuts on too many additional forums would probably not be beneficial to the ease of use and navigation. The additions need to be carefully thought out, IMHO, otherwise, you'd destroy something already good by trying to make it better.
Just my 2 pints of Lager.
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I'd like to suggest a new forum called "Monthly BIAB Songwriting Challenge" or maybe the more inclusive and less competitive "Monthly BIAB Songwriting Gathering."
The idea would be invite forum members to write and submit a song based on that month's theme: for example, a road song, or a river song, or a song about a city, a tree, etc. There are hundreds of possibilities.
Forum members could send in suggestions and each month one theme would be selected.
I used to belong to a songwriting group where we did this weekly. I was a bit skeptical at first, but it actually was a lot of fun to hear the variety of songs people would write from a common idea.
I think it would be a great showcase for BIAB's strengths and provide an opportunity for many forum-members to unite in a single goal.
It seems like the rules would be pretty simple:
1) Write to that month's theme
2) The backing tracks should be mostly, but not entirely, BIAB/RB
You could give awards each month for best melody, best lyrics, best use of BIAB/RB tracks.
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John I was with you 100% until the "Awards" . . . . too subjective, but that might be just me as OMMV.
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John I was with you 100% until the "Awards" . . . . too subjective, but that might be just me as OMMV. -- Danny C.
That was my exact thought also.
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How about a 'meetup' forum, where people that are big fans of BB can possibly meet other musicians that have an interest in either/both socializing in person and/or playing music in person, and sharing tips face-to-face for using BB/RB/RT via 'show and tell' type gatherings, e.g. "Here's how I have fun using the product, and here are some things I do with it. Also "Hey - there's a great music performance coming up at _{fill in venue}_ - would you like to go ?" Actually - if bandwidth wansn't such a large issue, some of the above could be done live,remotely. And to get around the bandwidth issue, this could also of course be done via people posting videos, though then you lose the spontaneity and live interaction. I'm always in front of my computer - I really need to meet people in person and get out more (any of you out there feel the same ?) I'm wondering if there are even enough people here in NYC that are enthusiastic enough about the product to want to do something similar to the above. Are there even enough enthusiasts that might also want to "Connect with other BB/RB/RT users in my local area" ? The only place in NYC that I've found anyone to discuss the product with is in my own basement when I'm in front of the amazing Internet connection that lets me converse with you guys in many different places. How many more enthusiasts are out there, and are there any more here in NYC ? BB/RB/RT is quite a sophisticated product, and the people that are enthusiastic about it are generally a pretty interesting, intelligent bunch - certainly a pool from which I'd like to (and have made) new friends. Here, for example, is a meetup.com website for people that like to practice. There are other meetups in NYC for people that like bluegrass, technology, socializing, etc. Why can't we use the PG forums to attract people locally to do something similar in our own localities ? http://www.meetup.com/NYC-Group-Music-Practice-Together-we-all-get-better/?gj=ej1b&a=wg2_cio
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John I was with you 100% until the "Awards" . . . . too subjective, but that might be just me as OMMV. -- Danny C.
That was my exact thought also.
I’m with Danny on this one also. Why make it a competition?
However I’m also against #2. Yes PGMusic software should absolutely have been used in the song production but mostly is the part I object too. What if someone only used the drum part of a style? Or just a couple of style tracks but add more of their own tracks? Or someone recorded a band live in RB? These would not be eligible but they would showcase other uses of PGMusic software.
Just my thoughts.
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Not sure where to put this. I was just reading a post on the BIAB Windows section. The OP had not purchased BIAB yet and commented that he probably needs BIAB For Dummies. I thought now that would be a book many would buy, including me and it could be sold right off of the PG website and other places. There's still a market for DTB's (dead tree books) especially technical ones. They made a video called BIAB for Bozo's once. It started off with a bunch of audio setup stuff and that caused my eyes to glaze over. I can understand the need for that type of info, but not at the beginning. The book should start with a chapter called "Quick Start". The book could include videos or have urls to them.
If I put this in the wrong place, sorry.
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New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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