|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250 |
No - not Cherokee!! You don't have to have the latest version of BIAB to have Fun. This arrangement was produced last year in my good old BIAB 2008 (!!) and is ALL BiaB midi (Coyote Forte) apart from the RealDrums – RockHardEven8^1. The tune was a concept “noodle” by my friend Dani who thought it might make a nice SLOW Western Movie style tune. However, comma – he left it with me - MISTAKE - and “look what he did to my tune, Pa”!! I made two sgu's – one C-EAGLES style and the other (to get the Brass etc) ^ORK60BAL, imported the lot as single wavs into Cakewalk GTPro2 (oldie but Goodie) and mixed it all down in there. Maybe now that I have BIAB2013 and therefore RealBand I would do it all as RTs or import all the midi's into RB and do it all there. Anyway – here it is CHEROKEESPlease excuse the “nod” at the coda to the most famous of all “Shadows” instrumental tracks. Lol. Cheers Ian
Last edited by sixchannel; 02/21/13 06:58 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,936
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,936 |
Hi Ian
I love this. Really easy listening. It reminds me of growing up to all those black and white westerns on TV – now that is giving my age away!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,716
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,716 |
Ian this sounds great. Would you mind sharing what guitar and recording techniques you uses?
This sounds exactly like something the Shadows and/or the Ventures would play.
Two thumbs up.
OK, a random thought;
Why does toilet paper need a commercial? Who's not buying it?
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,888
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,888 |
It's a great one again.
Recognizing the "nod at the coda" shows how old we are.
Guenter
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250 |
Hi Jo and Mario thanks for listening. I'm glad you like it. It really does have that TV Western "gallopy" thing about it. Mario - I go in for nothing difficult!! lol ! My guitar is a hand built Strat which I use for my Hank Marvin Tribute stuff.  It has a few mods, one of which is the ability to mix Neck and Bridge pickups together, not normally possible on a standard Strat. It gives the tone an "archtoppy" sort of sound, or maybe a bit Telecaster. The BT is made in an old software called Cakewalk Guitar Pro 2 which I bought in 2004 and it does the job for me. I import the individual wavs from BIAB into it and get the Mix I'm after in there. Remember it was done in BIAB2008. Now I have 2013 I could do a lot more, like importing the BIAB tracks to RB and getting better sounds, Sampletank, Hi-Q etc, or even finding a better RT track here and there. However, this sound file was done before I splashed the cash. I record the Lead track direct to the same Cakewalk file, having kept a "save" of the BT separately. Once I have a total mix I like, I bounce the whole thing to a "Final Mix Mastering" track and that is the one that you hear. Hope that helps cheers ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 126
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 126 |
Ian,
Listening to your track I envisioned Clint Eastwood, cigarillo clinched tightly in his teeth, riding across the barren Italian landscape.
Excellent sounding production on the track.
That is a beautiful strat!
P.S. I replied to your message.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,921
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,921 |
Ian,
VERY, VERY cool song. Keep this up and you'll have a whole album soon - and need to be putting it all out on CD.
Everything about it was perfect. Can't believe no one has mentioned how well done the horns were... so... well done!!
floyd
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250 |
Hi Guenter - yes "Apache" was the first Shadows tune I ever learned and amazingly I am still playing the darned thing 50 years later. LOL !!
Hi Austin - "Lady" is just beautiful to look at and stunning to play. And what a colour!!!!
I have returned your PM.
Hi Floyd -those horns in ORK60 were just perfect. For an all midi track sound file I think the sounds all come out pretty good.
cheers
ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 40
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 40 |
Ian
The first Album I ever bought was on cassette by the shadows and the track this reminds me of was Riders In The sky
Nice playing
Regards
Darren
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,724
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,724 |
Ian,
Man this is truly a feel good instrumental, and yes I too envisioned the boys riding back to the ranch at sundown.
Good stuff!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,716
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,716 |
S W E E T looking and sounding axe 
OK, a random thought;
Why does toilet paper need a commercial? Who's not buying it?
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 11,039
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 11,039 |
Wonderful song. I'm actually glad you recorded Cherokees before your BIAB upgrade. The Coyote Forte sound module + your wonderful sounding guitar (I know the guitar can only sound as good as the player) + a really neat song = a wonderful listening experience.
I'm a big fan of the Ventures and instrumentals in general.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987 |
Ian, in a word...fabulous!
I have the pleasure of knowing Nokie Edwards of Venture fame and, with your permission, I would like him to hear it. No promises, he may reject it out of hand fearing copyright hassles, but we won't know without trying. He may be able to "plug you in" to the proper people.
* Incidentally, Cherokee is one of those words that is both plural AND singular depending upon context, like "deer" or "elk". Mac or Bob will correct me if I'm wrong, they always do. Chuckle.
* Couldn't prove it so disregard. Asked a Cherokee Aide and she said: To pluralize the word, you would add a modifying noun such as Cherokee Indians. Wikipedia only confused the problem.
Last edited by Don Gaynor; 02/28/13 07:14 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250 |
Hello again
thanks for listening and the very kind words.
Darren - I think I've still got that cassette - "String of Hits" - 1979!!
DannyC - yes, I can feel that too. In its original Dani noodle demo he played it read "clip-cloppy" slow which was even more like riding back to the Ranch at sundown.
MArio D - "Lady" sure is wonderful and has some great tones.
Jim - I was so used to BIAB2008 that I never thought twice about doing multiple styles to get the midis I wanted and then exporting the wavs to my old DAW and mixing them in there. We're a lot smarter now with 2013 and I'm gald that the "old ways" are still there when I want something that BAIB can't offer as a set Style or RT etc.
Don - Dani will be so amazed. He is a huge Shadows and Ventures fan as you can tell from his Compo. He is in Finland and I have e-mailed him about what you have said. Knowing Dani, it will NOT be a problem. I understand that the Music Business has no guarantees but
just to be thought of will make his Day - and probably his Year!!
cheers
ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Ian,
Loved this. Reminds me of listening to "Walk Don't Run" and wishing that I could play guitar like that. Nice Strat, too. I'm curious about the amp - sounds like a Twin. What is it?
Regards,
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250 |
Hello Bob Glad you enjoyed it. I can hear where you are coming from with the "Walk Don't Run" thing. The Amp?? Well - for GIGGING I use a Vox VT60, 60 watts of valve power so lots of headroom and I can also DI it. BUT - for recording, I guess my secret is out. I DO use a twin - of sorts!! I use a Korg Ampworks, the tiniest amp sim in the world (probably), powered by 2 x AA batteries, and I have it set mostly to AC30, 2 x 12 speaker cab, but have the choice of 11 cabs, from Fender Juniors, Marshall stack, those nice tweed 4 speaker Blues amps, right up to ear destroying Recto heavy metal amps. Its so small that I have to Blue Tack it to the desk to stop it falling off!! lol ! See pic for scale. For those of us who have carried Voxs and the big Fender amps to and from Gigs, this little baby will never give you a hernia!! cheers ian 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Ian, That Korg sure fooled me! I gotta dig mine out - I have one of these:  Neat little boxes. Of course, it doesn't help my playing much, that's beyond help!  Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250 |
Bob
That's a cool little sim!
My Ampworks is years old so yours is probably its successor.
It seems to have all the same features apart from cabinet selection-unless thats hidden in the display somewhere.
Bob- we all play to the limits of our ability,whether that be Pro or just "luvvin' it" standard. It ALL matters.
Someone once told me "the woods would be pretty silent if the only birds that sang were those that sang best". Play and enjoy!!
Cheers
ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,587
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,587 |
Hi Ian,
What a great sound; a REALLY great sound! Images of Clint Eastwood, spurs, cacti, dust and guns in holsters swirled around in my head as I listened to this. You've got a real gift for melody. I also loved the chord progression. The way you moved from minor to major and threw in a whole heap chordal twists and turns along the way was wonderful. Words phrases that came to mind as I listened were: inventive, creative, didn't expect that chord, instrumental music at its best.
All the best,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,250 |
Hello Noel
thank you so much for listening and your oh so kind words. I am passing on to Dani the comments about his "throw-away" noodle. He never expected it to come out like this.
One of the things that caught me was the minor / major change - I thought it was cool.
cheers
ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!
All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!
It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!
The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.
The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.
The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac Videos
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
Whether you're exploring new features, checking out the latest RealTracks or Style PAKs, this is your go-to guide for Band-in-a-Box® 2026.
Check out this forum post for "One Stop Shopping" of our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Videos!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 100 new features in this exciting release.
Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until May 15, 2026. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49.
Holiday Weekend Hours
As we hop into the Easter weekend, here are our holiday hours:
April 3 (Good Friday): 8:00 AM – 4:00 PM PDT
April 4 (Saturday): Closed
April 5 (Easter Sunday): Closed
April 6 (Easter Monday): Open regular hours
Wishing you an egg-cellent weekend!
— Team PG
Update to Build 10 of RealBand® 2026 for Windows®!
If you're already using RealBand 2026 for Windows, download build 10 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!
If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!
Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,221
Posts802,045
Members40,070
| |
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean