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I think we could get a lot more control over what BiaB plays if each intrument had it's own chord sheet. Then you could have, say the guitar (track), play slightly different chords to the piano as an example.

The way it could work would be to have the default chord sheet exactly the way it is now and call it the combo sheet. It would be associated with the combo radio button and apply to all tracks unless overridden. This would ensure backward compatibility.

When you click on the guitar, piano or whatever button the chord sheet would by default have the same chords and part markers as the combo default sheet. Now if you decide the guitar should be playing a Csus while the combo is playing a C all you would do is change the chord in the guitar sheet.

As to the coding, BiaB would need to save only the changes to individual tracks in addition to the combo sheet that's saved now. Hopefully a fairly easy change. The actual grid component wouldn't need to be changed, just fed the extra info when the track changes.

All in all I think this would be a great addition to a great program.


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1+ Great Idea!

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Thinking some more about this idea I realized there's more really cool stuff we could do.

For example, imagine having the guitar play a few bars of the 'b' part while the other instruments play the 'a' part. That would be a great way to change up a song; like the drum substyles.

Or you could have the drums play a shot while the piano rests and the bass, guitar and string play holds. That would be great for endings or entering bridges etc.


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This can be done already using a combination of generate the song using "the default chord sheet" then freeze all tracks and then, say, unfreeze the piano part and change the chords to suit or change part markers for drum fills, regenerate and repeat as necessary. Also works with holds, shots and pushes. Requires a good memory tho' to remember the original chords! or to save each incremental song with a logical name

I thought of this a few weeks ago and am having great fun developing a logical way to work, if that is possible.

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This can be done already using a combination of generate the song using "the default chord sheet" then freeze all tracks and then, say, unfreeze the piano part and change the chords to suit or change part markers for drum fills, regenerate and repeat as necessary. Also works with holds, shots and pushes. Requires a good memory tho' to remember the original chords! or to save each incremental song with a logical name

I thought of this a few weeks ago and am having great fun developing a logical way to work, if that is possible.

Alyn




I never thought of that. However, there are some drawbacks. First, it's a lot of work. Second, the tracks have to be frozen and, as you mention, you'd have to remember what you did to each track in order to make any changes.

Frozen tracks will, of course, never regenerate and I like the regeneration. It's nice to have slight changes each time you play a song. So I think multiple chord sheets would be a great addition.


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Yes, we discussed related techniques as soon as freezing a track became possible. I have often frozen all but the drum track and then edited out pushes that played with too much emphasis. The problem is indeed trying to recall what you did and how. Even with the use of a memo, it would be easier if you could just save the song the way you wanted it.

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I forgot to say that something like you suggested would be an easier idea
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However, there are some drawbacks.



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I don't think I would want my guitarist to play a Csus while I played a C. However, if I wrote D13b9 for piano, maybe I would want the guitarist to play the upper functions of the chord which would be, in essence a B chord. Later, Ray


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Bump!

This has been requested for RB as well. Please indicate your support. Thanks.


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I don't know how complicated the programming would be, but the desirability of the feature is evident by the number of people who have responded favorably to the request on both wish lists.

And if having it ready in both programs at the same time holds it from being released, I vote for going ahead with a release of whichever version is ready first.

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+1 In addition to combo or main chord sheet plus chord sheet per instrument, imagine if the chord sheets were tabbed at the top for easy access to each chord sheet. The user could work through a song one section at a time tabbing between the instruments and combo sheet to keep track of the changes made and desired.


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