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Cornet Nev #202237 05/04/13 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: Cornet Nev
Windows 8 is such a major learning curve and as yet not sure if BIAB is fully supported, Peter Gannon will know more about that of course.


BIAB has no problems running on Windows 8, as does virtually every other program I've got that ran on Windows 7 and XP - (DOS excepted however!!).



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Re: Cornet Nev, yes, BIAB works fine in Windows 8. I have both running on my laptop.


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Ditto to what Matt said. Everything works great BIAB/RB in Win 8 64 bit.


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Welcome back Cy. Just thought I'd chime in here to tell you that all songs you hear posted by me so far were done on an XP machine with 2g of ram. My processor is an AMD 3800+.

Mac's advice has cleared up most issues I've had which haven't been many.

I watch running too many effect processors at once and occasionally might get bogged down with too many realtracks but nothing that stops me.

A few months ago, I bought a new powerful computer but haven't switched my music software over yet - haven't had the time plus I'm comfortable using this one and have so many plugs and programs that I know work.

So imo your XP machine should work until you're ready to invest in a more powerful computer if you'll up the ram, and follow Mac's advice.

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OK, rharv gave one of the settings in Opt., Preferences, RealTracks that should be used on a slower machine with problems running BIAB version 2013. The other two are right under it:

Uncheck "High Quality ..."
Check "Use +/- RealTracks"


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Originally Posted By: Cy O'Hara
Originally Posted By: Ryszard
Cy,

Welcome back to BIAB and to the forums! I don't have the answer to many of your questions, but someone will, so hang on.

AFAIK you should be able to use Amplitube in realtime, given that your PC is up to it. Those clicks and pops you mention bother me. There is a free benchmark you can download and run to see how much moxie your PC has. Go to http://www.primatelabs.com/geekbench/

I'm not clear on your question about using Garritan in RT, though. You make an earlier reference to "driving your guitar with the computer." Do you mean using your guitar as a controller? If so, you would need a pitch-to-MIDI converter such as a Roland GI-20 or equivalent plus a Roland GK-type pickup. As I said, though, I may just not be understanding what you're asking.

You're asking some great questions and you're obviously in a great place to take the answers and run with it. We look forward to seeing you grow with this thing.

HTH,

Richard


Yes, a pitch to midi converter sounds like the problem solver. Its on my shopping list, many thanks.
Cy


Be prepared for a significant hit. Last I checked you could get the GK pickup (GK-3 recommended) for around $225. Then it needs installation. You can do this yourself if you are handy and have precision tools (think micrometer that reads out in thousandths of an inch and/or tenths of a millimeter, plus l'il tiny drill bits). If you're not comfortable drilling on your guitar you'll want to have it done for you. (You can do it on a Les Paul-type bridge without having to cut on the instrument, but you still need the gauges.)

You have more options on the PTM converter. I believe the range starts with the previously mentioned Roland GI-20 for a few hundred dollars (if you can find one) to the Roland VG-99 "V-Guitar" emulator starting at around $1,000, which is kind of the ultimate guitar workstation. There are some items in between, the names of which I am unable to recall at the moment, but if you're interested I'll be happy to research for you.

I myself have a Roland GI-10, which I haven't attempted to use yet. I believe it has latency issues which the GI-20 (which also includes a microphone input) addresses. I intend to use it to drive Propellhead's Reason S/W synth software.

I'm excited for you. You stand at the beginning of a wonderful and happy journey. Once you get your computer issues sorted you're gonna be a monster!

R.

Edited to add: Apparently the modular approach has gone the way of all flesh. Looks like it's limited these days to the VG-99/GK pickup combination, or a GK-ready guitar such as those made by Godin and a handful of others. Not cheap, but very effective.

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Hi, thanks for your help, it is all most appreciated.

"That said, have you considered a newer PC or Operating System? XP stops support in 9 months I think. It's getting old."

That has occurred to me, but it would have to go on my Christmas shopping list, if the Economy here ever gets off it's rear end!

Many thanks,

Cy

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Thanks Richard, please put the research for me on hold.

I hate to begin with whimpering, but matters here (I guess like everywhere) are getting tight, so my delusions of grandeur might have to be delayed until I sort my box out, I hadn't factored in a new computer at this time.

Many thanks for you speedy help,

Cy

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Thanks Matt,that will certainly keep me going until I get a new box sorted out.

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Originally Posted By: Sundance
Welcome back Cy. Just thought I'd chime in here to tell you that all songs you hear posted by me so far were done on an XP machine with 2g of ram. My processor is an AMD 3800+.

Mac's advice has cleared up most issues I've had which haven't been many.

I watch running too many effect processors at once and occasionally might get bogged down with too many realtracks but nothing that stops me.

A few months ago, I bought a new powerful computer but haven't switched my music software over yet - haven't had the time plus I'm comfortable using this one and have so many plugs and programs that I know work.

So imo your XP machine should work until you're ready to invest in a more powerful computer if you'll up the ram, and follow Mac's advice.


Hi Josie, many thanks for the welcome and the advice. Yes, much to plan ahead to, and good to hear that what I currently have, can be improved enough to get me through the interim.

Kind regards,

Cy

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Dear Danny C. Matt Finley. rharv. Cornet Nev. Mac. Kevin and Josie

What a wonderful resource, I am very grateful to you all. However, it does make me feel like the poor relation (only joking). Much to do, so.

Many thanks,

Cy

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cy,

(first of all, welcome to the forum my friend!)

regarding analog to MIDI conversion for guitars, several low priced (or free) alternatives have been discussed here over the past year.

1) One of them is this very cool and inexpensive gizmo that started out as a game controller until musicians realized you could also use it as a MIDI guitar:

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads...7446#Post167446




2) Another option is the PITCH TO MIDI built directly into RB. Here's a link to a thread about it:

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads...true#Post127688



3) yet another option is a cool plugin that many here have tried and testified that it does a great job of turning analog guitar into MIDI

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-a...audio-midi.html



4) here's another plugin that promises to change guitar to MIDI
http://www.bitscrew.com/


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3) yet another option is a cool plugin that many here have tried and testified that it does a great job of turning analog guitar into MIDI

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-a...audio-midi.html


Comes highly endorsed - this is the real thing, and can be a game changer.


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Pat,thanks for the welcome and the large Candy box.
Cy

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Thanks Jazzmandan, yes, just been looking at this, it looks very exciting.
Regards,
Cy

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Originally Posted By: raymb1
http://arcellussykesmusic.com/index.php?/transcriptions/

This site has a lot of transcriptions. Later, Ray


Thanks for that Ray. I did not know about this site, it looks very useful.

Regards
Cy

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For Mac.
Hi Mac, sorry to display my lack of knowledge in this area, but could you please give me the full string?
Control=Panel=System=HARDWARE=?

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Cy,

All of the pitch to MIDI solutions for guitar I mentioned were polyphonic, i.e., six strings. These are expensive as noted and there doesn't seem to be a way around that, unless you are willing to research some legacy hardware, then exercise the patience to acquire it. I think there is or was a Roland guitar synth device that did PTM and was less than the VG-99 at $1300-1500 USD. I'll continue to look for that just because I'm interested in staying current. I had high hopes for the Axon 50 and 100, but apparently the manufacturer, Terratec, has called it quits.

However, there seem to be a number of quite cost-effective (read: under $100 USD) monophonic approaches in both hardware and software. This is adequate if you are just playing single-note lines such as melodies or bass. I believe you have to have hardware to do it in real time.

Signed,

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Hi Mac, sorry to display my lack of knowledge in this area, but could you please give me the full string?
Control=Panel=System=HARDWARE=?


Cy,

I just walked over to my XP machine. The path is Control Panel/System/Advanced/Performance/Advanced/Virtual Memory.

HTH,

R.

Edited for confirmed correct path.

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Hi Mac, sorry to display my lack of knowledge in this area, but could you please give me the full string?
Control=Panel=System=HARDWARE=?


Cy,

I just walked over to my XP machine. The path is Control Panel/System/Advanced/Performance/Advanced/Virtual Memory.

HTH,

R.

Edited for confirmed correct path.


Oh, thank you very much. In respect of the hardware solution, it does sound out of my reach for the time being. However, I downloaded the free beta polyphonic software product, (mentioned previously), which sounded excellent, but several attempts to load it, which all failed, and I gave up. Do you know about this package?
Cy

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