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I see a common theme is the manual.
.. and gratitude for Beta Testers and Development.
I concur.
Something as unique as BiaB needs a lot of understanding to write a manual for, yet keeping the manual simple (with in-depth options) would help.
Tough job.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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I have to give a shout out to the overall quality that 2013 has been. It's been working great.
The BETA Testers deserve some credit here I'm sure. Thanks to PG team and BETA testers for all their extra attention to BAIB! I'm sure I speak for all of the beta testers when I throe a heartfelt THANK YOU very much for saying that. There are far too many times, it seems, when posts rant about problems and blame even the beta testers for their problem, far fewer times when someone thanks us for sitting up late into the night testing, re-testing, suggesting, downloading, re-testing, cussing and discussing. Every single member of the group tries very hard to catch everything, sometimes something or other does slip through, but, believe me, that is not as bad a situation as it could have been and that's because of their dedication to duty during the testing. So thanks again! --Mac Hear, hear. I'm happy to do it!
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Well, we get to see the new features first, and we get to try to break things. What could be better?
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Well, we get to see the new features first, and we get to try to break things. What could be better? LOL! Sort of like Mythbusters!
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Thanks, Beta Testers, AKA Mythbusters.... Appreciated!
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I see a common theme is the manual.
Something as unique as BiaB needs a lot of understanding to write a manual for, yet keeping the manual simple (with in-depth options) would help.
Tough job. Some one needs to write BIAB for dummies. I sure would buy it!
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Well, we get to see the new features first, and we get to try to break things. What could be better? LMAO!
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So when should we expect 2013.5?
I started using BIAB back in 1995 and used it to write several albums of material and some composing for theater but the last time I updated was 2004... and then got distracted with the "day job" and was unable to upgrade.
I am going to buy the upgrade to 2013 but then remembered that PG usually releases ever 6 months--- how soon is 2013.5 due?
There's no point of buying it now if the .5 release is almost here,
regards to you all,
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Welcome to the forum, Joel. You will be amazed by the improvements. As I mentioned above, last summer the mid-year release came in early August. However, there is no guarantee when it might come out, or even that there will be one this summer. Plus, beta testers are not allowed to say anything.
Also not a guarantee, but it would do no harm to ask PG Music sales now about how they would handle it if you bought now and the new version came out within different time frames.
The one thing I am completely sure of is that this is the most fair company I have ever dealt with.
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Thanks for the reply... I understand about Beta testers having certain obligations...  I have to agree with you about PG's customer focus and fairness. I purchased a DXi plug-in in 2009 and when I had some trouble with it they were very helpful. I look forward to adding BIAB into my composition workflow again... I still have the 2004 install that I moved over from an old WinXP system and did a "string and tape" job getting it to work under windows 7 x64 [I used to do computer networks for a living but have settled into being under-employed with a commiserate reduction in stress and increase in free time.] At first my workflow was BIAB > WindJammer (Midi Editor} > Hardware Synths > Cassette Tape Then evolved to BIAB + The Jammer > WindJammer (Midi Editor} > Hardware Synths > Sound Forge (mastering) Then Became BIAB > WindJammer (Midi Editor} > Hardware Synths + FL Studio > ACID Pro > Sound Forge (mastering) Then BIAB > Reason + FL Studio > ACID Pro > Sound Forge (mastering) As you can see I don't tend to use a single tool but I am willing to spend the $299 for the ultrapak if only to get all the bells and whistles I can afford while I can afford them but want (as most people do) the most bang for the buck.
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So when should we expect 2013.5?
I started using BIAB back in 1995 and used it to write several albums of material and some composing for theater but the last time I updated was 2004... and then got distracted with the "day job" and was unable to upgrade.
I am going to buy the upgrade to 2013 but then remembered that PG usually releases ever 6 months--- how soon is 2013.5 due?
There's no point of buying it now if the .5 release is almost here,
regards to you all,
joel based on my experience last year you would do well to wait until the end of year version as they did a MUCH better sale in December compared to August last year.
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I agree fully with the above.
Why buy around mid year, and it usually is't .5 more like .75 when 3 or 4 months later you will get all the realtracks and probably a better deal in the early December sale.
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whether 2013.5 comes in June, July or August...
it's closer today than it was yesterday!
WOO HOO!
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>>>...Why buy around mid year, and it usually..>>>>
Why? Because I cant stand waiting til Xmas to see what's next...
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Seems to me that several times PG Music released
upgrades on or about Friday's.
July 5th next week....Rubbing hands together I am...
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Why buy around mid year... for the same reasons that I eat lunch at mid-day
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July is on the doorstep.
Last year's early August release was a bit later than usual. June would have been the true .5 halfway point, but now June is behind us.
So I'm thinking we must be getting close to a dot-5er
We need an emoticon that represents rubbing greedy little hands together in anticipation. Yah. I'd use it now.
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I used to care, but things have changed (Bob Dylan)
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