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there is absolutely nothing wrong with using a formulaic approach to writing songs to target them at the marketplace if that is what you want to do. calling those songs "dumbed down" is elitist and unnecessary (sorry Bob!)
likewise there is nothing wrong with being a virtuoso creating music so complex that only you "get" it! calling those songs "dumbed up" ("smarted up"?) would be equally wrong.
we should all create whatever we want without feeling all superior or being made to feel inferior.
so, back to the original question, for me the act of creating music and performing it is mostly an emotional pursuit. if you can connect with folks (or just yourself if that is your goal) and make them smile or cry or feel something then IMHO you have succeeded whether you did it with 3 simple chords or you wore out the neck of your guitar with your amazing jazz hands! I should probably stop "talking for others", explaining what they meant... but in this case I will at least say what *I* thought the person meant. When people talk about "dumbed down" music, they aren't necessarily talking about ALL commercial music, because nearly everything we all like is exactly that. *I* think the term is used to describe what happens when the music becomes a MUCH lower priority than the money. I can't verify it, but I've heard of a famous experiment in which a chimpanzee was left in a room with art supplies. He found them amusing and would entertain himself for hours making intricate marks on the paper. So they decided to see what would happen if they positively reinforced his efforts with food. Once he realized there was a link between the scribbles and the food, he'd spend barely enough time to make a scribble before presenting it for food. IMO, the same thing happens with people. You get different results when art is your passion and when money is your passion. But some people who are good businessmen are also good musicians, so its not true across the board.
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discussion: from YOUR point of view, is music an intellectual or emotional pursuit?
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Pat Marr
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06/13/13 12:58 PM
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06/13/13 01:09 PM
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floyd jane
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06/13/13 01:41 PM
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Mac
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06/13/13 02:32 PM
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Pat Marr
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06/13/13 02:54 PM
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ROG
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06/13/13 05:39 PM
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MarioD
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Pat Marr
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06/13/13 05:54 PM
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90 dB
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06/13/13 08:10 PM
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MikeK
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06/13/13 10:24 PM
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Jim Fogle
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06/14/13 01:57 AM
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ROG
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06/14/13 11:39 AM
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Pat Marr
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06/15/13 04:32 PM
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Pat Marr
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06/15/13 06:53 PM
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Pat Marr
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06/15/13 07:21 PM
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06/16/13 01:50 AM
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Pat Marr
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Pat Marr
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bobcflatpicker
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Lawrie
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bobcflatpicker
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Pat Marr
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Lawrie
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GDaddy
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Lawrie
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ROG
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Pat Marr
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Pat Marr
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MikeK
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GDaddy
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Pat Marr
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90 dB
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