Originally Posted By: joden
Originally Posted By: 90 dB

A 15 year old male or female is a child. Legally and mentally. Our duty as adults is to protect children, not acquiesce to their molestation.


Right so they are a child at 15 years and 364 days, but at 15 years and 365 days they are automatically NOT a child???

Nah sorry but I think you have it wrong...I know several 15, 16 and 17 year olds (male and female) who are more "adult" and mature than other folks I know in their forties and fifties.

It is VERY individual, relative and subjective issue at that age group. Maybe your definition of pre-pubescent is different to the generally accepted age of around 11/12?

As I wrote earlier, genuine child molestation and paedophilia is abhorrent in the extreme, but I do not think the song has anything to do with genuine paedophilia, and I do think you are being overly critical of the intent and subject matter. Perhaps I am wrong and what you are suggesting IS the writers intent?

Only they can say.







“Right so they are a child at 15 years and 364 days, but at 15 years and 365 days they are automatically NOT a child???”


Yes. Precisely. Why have any limits? If 15 is OK with you, why not 14? 13? 12? After all they are just arbitrary limits, right?


“Nah sorry but I think you have it wrong...I know several 15, 16 and 17 year olds (male and female) who are more "adult" and mature than other folks I know in their forties and fifties.”


Legally, they are still children.



“It is VERYindividual, relative and subjective issue at that age group. Maybe your definition of pre-pubescent is different to the generally accepted age of around 11/12?


Ah. It's all relative. I see.


“I do think you are being overly critical of the intent and subject matter.”


I really don't care what you think. I find the subject matter reprehensible, and your defense of it disgusting.