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David Cuny (one of our own genii) has put an immense amount of time and effort into developing a singing synthesis device (software) and needs someone to evaluate the prototype. My dexterity has declined to the point that I am of very limited use so I need someone to help David.
Those interested should contact David by PM.
Thank you.
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Gunter's taken a look at it, and provided some excellent feedback.
Most importantly, the voice quality isn't where it needs to be. The program works, but there's a lot of room for improvement.
I'll be on vacation in a couple of days, and won't likely be able to do any work on it until the end of August.
I just wish Don was doing better! He's had (and continues to have) a difficult time. I'm just holding out hope that at some point things start working a bit better for him.
If, despite the disclaimer, anyone is still interested, I'll be happy to post a link to the Java application.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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David,
Just reviewed your blog and am pretty impressed with your knowledge and tenacity at tackling such a tough subject. I don't have the in depth knowledge that you have but if you just want someone to give you feedback I will be glad to do so.
I have been working with my TC Helicon Voice Live 2 so some of the things you are talking about in regard to phonemes and formant make some sense to me.
Just so I get the vision here though. Using a practical example once this is developed I could create an arrangement of a song in Finale, export it in Music XML and have the program sing the vocal parts. Is that correct in regards to where this might go?
Thanks,
Terry
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Windows 10, Dell 8700 XPS i7, 12MB Ram.
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Actually, I haven't written the MusicXML or MIDI import yet. I've played around with it enough to know that I can do it, I just haven't gotten around to it. So at this point, the program's got a stand-alone GUI. Open it up, and enter music, either via the mouse, or the (typewriter) keyboard using the durations (w, h, e, s, t) and the arrow keys to move up and down. You can drag notes up and down, and change the duration by dragging left and right. You can also adjust the duration via the [ and ] keys, as in Noteflight. There's no support (yet) for ties, slurs or tuplets. Barlines are optional, but if you don't add them, you won't be able to navigate left if there are too many notes in the measure! When you enter text in the box below the music notation, it's automatically attached to the notes. You should hyphenate the text, but the program will try to do it for you if you don't. A song can have multiple sections, each one in it's own key. The biggest caveat is that if you've got multiple sections, you need to set up the song order (Song | Order Song Sections). You can repeat sections of the song. You can also copy sections, and then change the lyrics of the new section instead of having to re-enter all the notes. It's a Java application, but I've wrapped it so it looks like a Windows .exe file: synSinger.exe If you prefer, there's also a .jar file, which should run on a Mac or Linux: synSinger.jarEventually I'll post the code on SourceForge. It takes a moment to open, because it's loading up a couple of dictionaries. When you first try to play a song/section back, it may take another couple of moments because it's allocating the buffers. I'm hoping that adding a few more formants and using values of a singer (instead of a speaker, which is where I got the values from) helps somewhat. I'm also going to try using recordings of consonants instead of synthesizing them. But it's always going to sound robotic - that's the nature of the technology. All this is a long-winded way of saying you can just fire the program up and start playing with it - no MusicXML required. Let me know if you've got any questions!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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