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I repeat - Correctly generated endings that do as a user has written EVERY time for Real Drums and Real Tracks

That upgrade by itself is worth the $'s

If you're having a real problem with that, start a new thread asking about it or contact Support. I find the endings are good but lets not get into a discussion about in this thread. And if it turns out that whatever you're specifically trying to do really can't be done at this time then this should go in the Wishlist forum because that's where PG'ers look for areas that need improvement.

Bob

Bob, thanks but no real need for another thread. It IS a well known issue after all, with several "work-around" methods (even some provided by PG themselves - so they know about it )

And tbh it is really not something for a wishlist, it is more for a "fix it up" list, or get it working to how advertising suggests it works!

I can get around it and create compromise endings, but really, when all said and done, it already is a touted operation within the app. It should just, well....work!

Dennis

2014 i think

+1 !!

Do your endings change even if you freeze your song? I write my own endings and intros. I then freeze them and they're the same every time. Ray

64 bit would be very important for me, at least. I've invested fairly heavily in some really nice but RAM-hogging sample libraries powered by Kontakt; one of them, in fact, a great acoustic guitar library, basically consumes all spare RAM on a 32 bit system, once you take into account the RAM needed just to run Windows. While I can always audition things in BIAB with SampleTank or Coyote Forte, imagining how they'll sound when I export the midi into my DAW and play it through my Kontakt stuff, it's not ideal. If I could do it from within BIAB, that would be a serious workflow boon.

Well I actually ordered 32 bit windows myself when buying pc so as to stay with things like the roland vsc.

The absence of .5 has I feel raised the expectations of so many posters here that 2014 will deliver a very different 64 bit biab, so I hope everyone will be happy when December comes around.

Musiclover

I split my gigging between use of BIAB 2013 and an arranger keyboard. Guess I can wait. However, I want to upgrade both when they become available. What a dilemma. Need more $$$ to support the habit.

I haven't been posting on forums too much. I guess you just reply to the last posting to get in on this right? Anyway yeah sounds pretty exciting though what might be coming out in December. I was all geared up for this .5 release for my first purchase of BiaB. I am glad I asked PGmusic the question will there be a new release soon...a couple months back. I will wait for December so I can get in on this hopeful big advancement with 64bit since I have Windows 7 64bit. I am going for the hard drive version. Anyone that is serious about using the Real Tracks for some nice productions should buy it to get the wave files so you can have the best quality.

I think this might be a great decision for me to buy this. I have written many songs in my life. About 20 and 25 years ago. A big collection of Country music. I think I will shine them up with all the country real tracks here. I just play some basic guitar and I know this software has something to help me produce them into sounding pretty good. I may not have a grammy award winning album. But for selling them online for a low price download I think I can get some foreigners loving my country WOW authentic from an independent artist. But really my plans aren't country. That was just me 20 years back with my fake country voice I came up with. I am now a Jazz Vocal Standards style singer. I love to emulate Sinatra, Dean Martin, Nat King Cole, Harry Connick Jr. All of those artists. So I want BiaB to help me get something going in that area. I will heist some great chord progressions from my favorite songs to get me started with a great foundation. As you know these chord progressions are not copyrightable. You just need your own melody and lyrics and the chords are all yours!! WOW! All my songs were basic chords in the past.

So this will really get me going creatively. I hope I surprise myself with what I can do. With the Real Tracks we are literally getting thousands of dollars in professional musician's studio recordings. That is why I want the wave files to those. I wouldn't put it past some professionally produced albums having Real Tracks on them somewhere to save money. Does anyone know? Anyway I do think I could be great with this program. Help me to advance and inspire me to write again.

One thing though I don't like the secrecy of PGmusic really. Why do they have to play the Apple silence role? Why? Just get some of your people on here filling us in on things. We are working hard on BiaB....we aren't going to be putting out a .5 this year everyone. We are saving it all up for a crazy blowout huge advancement for Christmas. And yes it includes 64bit and some wonderful new styles to choose from. Why can't they do that? Why the silence? Why not interact with the BiaB community? All the enthusiasts? Make everyone feel part of it. Not abandoned. Not this feeling of coldness. Being locked out from the answers. Well I am not buying it until Christmas anyway. I really don't think they are doing this .5 thing people. But how would I know? I don't even own a BiaB yet lol. Well look at the date. September 10th as I type this. So obviously it isn't happening. And if it is happening they are just taking it from my December purchase anyway. So nobody buy the .5 now. That would be a waste of your money when all you have to do is wait a 3 months or so.

Sly Ruby

as a clarification, the notion that version 2014 will be 64 bit has been entirely thought up and spread by the forum members. Nobody from PGMusic (to my knowledge) has ever said (or even suggested) that.

Every year we speculate about what "might" be included in the next release... sometimes we're right, but often we're not.

We won't know what new features actually made it into 2014 until it ships.

I would suggest to those who want BIAB to be a 64 bit program: be careful what you wish for you may eventually get it.

It will be interesting, and possibly amusing, to watch posts AFTER PG finally does release a 64 bit BIAB. (FYI: that is an big "if and when" … after.)


Larry

The percentage of people running 32 bit is probably larger than those running 64 bit. There are still a lot of people running Win XP. Whether BIAB is 32 or 64 bit is moot for my purposes. Ray

but, as somebody else noted in another thread: it's been years since you've seen a 32 bit computer for sale at a store. Everything I've seen in the last several years has been 64 bit. My last 3 or 4 computers have come with a 64 bit operating system.

So, although it may be true that there are still a lot of people running older computers, that ratio will continually decline. At SOME point, they'll need to make a decision to put the product where the most people are. Even if it means doing what sonar and others have done: ship both versions and give the user the option to decide which one to install

Peter and company have always been very cautious about rewriting the program in such a way as to prevent users of antiquated operating systems from using the most current version. I would be shocked if PG goes 64 bit.

but if they offered both versions everybody could have what they want, nobody would be excluded

I'd rather see them introduce a 48kHz sample rate first. I am getting tired of having to keep re-setting the audio interface back to 48 after using BIAB. Every other music app runs at 48, but not BIAB!

It can also screw things a bit with sample rate mismatches when editing in other software. And no I do NOT want to run my entire system at 44!! just to suit PG!

So the three things for me : get the damn endings on realtracks/drums actually working as the advertising proclaims they work; 48kHz sampling rates; 64bit so we can actually access our systems full RAM capabilities, especially when running RAM dependent VSTi's.

Everything else is just fluff afaic. These things are what SHOULD have already been in the program. And should not be considered as a feature or even a wish!

My laptop is 64 bit, but irrelevant for MY uses of BIAB. Ray

IMO A major reason to update to 64 bit is to support 64 bit VSTS. All my VSTs are now 64 bit and I just don't have days to spare to double install them all so I can use them in BIAB.
Its true that there are still 32 bit VSTs. In Cubase you can use Jbridge to 'wrap' these for 64 bit. I could not say this would work in a new BIAB 64 bit though. Depends on the quality of the rewrite.

There are so many reasons for a total rewrite of the program code, (inc a new sound engine Joden)I won't list them all that would be tiresome.

So, think it out. IF you were going to embark on a rewrite then would you do this in 64 bit or (only) 32 bit, or both.
I think that if you were to write it would be at least in 64 bit and hopefully in both, but surely not ONLY in 32 bit.

I am not sure if you can compile 64 bit code in 32 bit? It may be a semi-automatic process? Not sure...

Zero

Who knows when PGMusic will release a new version. Maybe November-December is no longer a certainty, if 64 bits is our future.... Or heaven forbid, a new GUI....