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This was promoted on my FB news feed. I imagine that it works, and probably works well. Just think what users are missing by not getting BIAB! Chordpickout
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Wow... and to think, for years, we had to do that all by ear.
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Oh the hours I wasted trying to figure out chords by ear with my guitar or piano.
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Wow... and to think, for years, we had to do that all by ear.
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Oh the hours I wasted trying to figure out chords by ear with my guitar or piano.
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And all the record albums in ruined scratching the hell out of them by putting the needle down and picking it up again many many times! {even more sarcasm) What I think is that BiaB is starting to get a little competition with this and those EZ-key programs. Although these programs are in the embryonic stage they do have a model in BiaB to get ideas from and to possibly advance at a very rapid rate of growth. Things may get interesting in the coming years.
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I really look forward to what BB/RB will be in say 5 or 10 more years.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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I'm looking at the very first sentence in their descriptor on that page: Use your PC to guess chords to your favourite songs! The human ear, when trained properly to be able to recognize the intervals, does not have to guess, it is fairly infallible. One would think that the machine coding could be done in such manner that it, too, should be absolutely infallible. MELODYNE did it. --Mac
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I don't know why, but anybody who needs an app to identify a chord reminds me of a doctor saying "Oh. So THAT'S where the appendix is..."
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Careful, Eddie. I got lambasted once for saying anyone should have a basic knowledge of music. Later, Ray
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Careful, Eddie. I got lambasted once for saying anyone should have a basic knowledge of music. Later, Ray The beauty of being 62 and having no filter left anymore.... 
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I don't know why, but anybody who needs an app to identify a chord reminds me of a doctor saying "Oh. So THAT'S where the appendix is..." Sorry Eddie, I think that is the gallbladder and if you are going to remove it, you had better take no longer than 3 MINUTES to do so! :> Later,
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Great one, I almost forgot about those scams in the Philippines.
Did that patient look a little like Eddie or was that just me thinking that. Well the operation was under 3 minutes.
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I don't know why, but anybody who needs an app to identify a chord reminds me of a doctor saying "Oh. So THAT'S where the appendix is..." I'm not so sure I agree with this and the trail of replies. I can see where this could be pretty handy, if it was faster on the draw than human intuition; like a calculator helps me multiply big numbers faster than I can do it myself. Or even the lattice multiplication method. Do any of you use the feature built-in to PG products that does basically the same thing? There's a difference between NEEDING and USING TO ONE'S ADVANTAGE. I would say that this tool should help fulfill the latter, if it works quickly.
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I don't know why, but anybody who needs an app to identify a chord reminds me of a doctor saying "Oh. So THAT'S where the appendix is..." I'm not so sure I agree with this and the trail of replies. I can see where this could be pretty handy, if it was faster on the draw than human intuition; like a calculator helps me multiply big numbers faster than I can do it myself. Or even the lattice multiplication method. Do any of you use the feature built-in to PG products that does basically the same thing? There's a difference between NEEDING and USING TO ONE'S ADVANTAGE. I would say that this tool should help fulfill the latter, if it works quickly. I'm with you on this one! And I'll take it one step further and ask why in the world someone who uses software to create their backing tracks would then be critical of someone who uses this tool to detect chords? SMH!
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I can see where this could be pretty handy, if it was faster on the draw than human intuition; like a calculator helps me multiply big numbers faster than I can do it myself. Or even the lattice multiplication method.
Hardly an apple to apple analogy. It is hard for me to be objective about the topic because I can tell the chord just by hearing it, but not everybody can do that. A math geek can do higher math in his head to many places. A carpenter can identify wood by the grain. When I hear a chord, I just know what it is.
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Well, the kind of music I am generally involved with, and I think I can safely say that Eddie is in the same camp here, does not come out all that pretty when shoved through *any* of these chord identifying schemes, and that is inclusive of PGMusic's ACW.
Walking Bass lines, extensions on chords, anticipated playing styles, or playing behind the beat, all that and more just confuses these chord identifying algos.
I do use the ACW to get the layout from a song quickly when setting up a song in BiaB, but what it sends to the Chord Grid quite often needs to be re-entered manually in order to get what the chords really are.
These things work okay with simple chords, simpler songs and rather simple straight accompaniment, for the most part.
But guys like Eddie and me don't need the machine to ID those simple a chords, we both could likely play along with that kind of song on the first run through we hear it anyway.
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To Mac and Eddie, unless you both were prodigies, that ability took you years of woodshedding where you had the chords in front of you or someone calling out the chords or telling you the structure as you were playing. Doctors aren't born, they learn over time. If this analogy of the doctor was reasonable then disdain should be cast down upon every fake book touted here as well. Or any chord chart ever used before figuring out the chords by oneself, etc. if it were reliable, which one day this will happen, it will be a great learning tool to develop the ear to identify chords on audition only. There are plenty of university type folks working on automated score generation. An acquaintance of mine, Dr. Gregory Wakefield at U-M (sorry Eddie) usually has at least one PhD candidate working some new angle of this kind of topic in his Computer Science program. Greg is an accomplished singer as well as computer algorithm and DSP wizard.
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I need BIAB to play the instruments I can't play. I do not need any help to do transcriptions and have been doing them for hire for forty-five years. However, I use the Audio Chord Wizard because it is a helpful tool that can sometimes make the process easier, especially a tempo map. Why not use the tool, if it saves time?
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When I started playing guitar there were no tabs, Audio Chord Wizard, Internet or anything like that. Back then the only way to get the chords was to either buy the music or pick the chords off of the record or radio. Since sheet music was expensive back then, at least to me, I had to pick the chords off the radio/record then buy the Hit Parade magazine for the lyrics.
I still practice that technique but I also use the ACW. Like Matt said it is a tool so why not use it.
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. . . I had to pick the chords off the radio/record then buy the Hit Parade magazine for the lyrics. I went a step further. I learned to pick out chords by ear like many of the rest of you, but I saved money on the magazines (which I didn't know existed-- Hit Parade, you say?) by recording albums and radio broadcasts onto an old Wollensak reel-to-reel deck and transcribed the lyrics by 'rocking the reels.' I had my share of "mondegreens" at first, but I began to learn how to coax meaning out of context (not always easy with lyrics heavily influenced by the drug culture). Not only did I save money, it helped me later in foreign-language study and in my present career as a medical transcriptionist. Now that I mention it, transcription is also being heavily augmented by its own version of the ACW: speech recognition (SR) software. My parent company, Nuance Communications, who is behind the SR technology in iPhones and elsewhere, touts it as being a big cost-saver to physicians and hospitals. Let me tell you from my experience on the back end, it doesn't work nearly as well as they would like clients to believe. Most of the time we would do just as well from raw voice recordings, but it gives transcription companies a chance to pay its workers, who are highly skilled medical language specialists, half of what they would without the software. Sucks to be us. R.
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I couldn't pick out a song to save my life -- I just don't have the natural ear to do it. I guess I should just give up music.
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