|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,427
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,427 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047 |
John,
After 4 hours of exploring add-ons, and the add-on reviews
I dropped the hammer...
Thanks for heads up.
Now gotta download over 20 gig of goodies.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497 |
Long time CW owner/user (since DOS version 2, PS Ditto for BIAB) and currently own Sonar X2 Producer, which I ALMOST skipped buying for multiple reasons.
In any case, I'll be skipping X3, at least for the foreseeable future.
While I run Win 7 64 bit I have yet to install the 64 bit version of Sonar X2. I have no "dedicated" 64 bit plug-ins (i.e., I have Kontakt 5 which is a "switch hitter" but I didn't buy it for 64 bit use). I have yet to consciously buy, or download, any 64 bit only VSTs/VSTi's and I own NO VST3's.
HOW DO I MANAGE?
Larry
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047 |
Larry,
Reading your Signature, me thinks your doing quite well.
I picked it up for the Melodyne and also the Addictive drums.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,497 |
Seeker,
My post, on re-reading, came off as arrogant, snippy, .. sorry didn't mean to sound like that. Yes I have more toys than I should be allowed to own, or that are even listed :-)
Larry
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047 |
Larry,
I did not take it that way at all. I just barely know how to use
the DAW. Power Tracks and then RB has been my main mix tools.
Forced over to Sonar based on great x2a producer price and need
for 64 bit DAW to use a Lot of VSTi memory hogs...
Not in any way did I think it was wrong.....
"Snoopy" is still "Dancin"..... And "awaitin" the new PG system.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,427
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,427 |
If you haven't already got XLN's Addictive Drums you're going to love them. I use them in almost all my projects.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913 |
Larry, There is a plugin which bridges 32 bit VST for use in 64 bit apps. However, I think Cakewalk is still using a VST into DX wrapper - so I'm not sure that the bridge plugin works. http://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/There's a demo so you could give it a whirl if you can do a dual install of Cakewalk. I'm sort of in the same boat. I have a small stockpile of my 'goto' plugins which are all 32 bit and my current host is 32 bit (run in Win7 64 bit Home Premium as Administrator without an issue). But I'm getting ripe for upgrading to a 64 bit host. I'm very tempted by Mixcraft's video editing features and it's price. I qualify for an academic discount on it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 598
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 598 |
Larry, There is a plugin which bridges 32 bit VST for use in 64 bit apps. However, I think Cakewalk is still using a VST into DX wrapper - so I'm not sure that the bridge plugin works. http://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/There's a demo so you could give it a whirl if you can do a dual install of Cakewalk. I'm sort of in the same boat. I have a small stockpile of my 'goto' plugins which are all 32 bit and my current host is 32 bit (run in Win7 64 bit Home Premium as Administrator without an issue). But I'm getting ripe for upgrading to a 64 bit host. I'm very tempted by Mixcraft's video editing features and it's price. I qualify for an academic discount on it. I think that DX wrapper was for Sonar 5 and older. Present Sonar uses a bridge to use 32 bit plugs in the 64 bit versions. Noel has posted comments before how all of this stuff works. Here is a new Blog on the latest VST3 support that implements the ARA support for Melodyne. http://blog.cakewalk.com/developer-notes-sonar-x3-vst-enhancements/
BIAB 2026 Ultrapack- Studio One Pro 7 Windows 11, Mac Mini M4 with Logic Pro 11, Melodyne Studio, Luna Pro
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,123
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 3,123 |
If you haven't already got XLN's Addictive Drums you're going to love them. I use them in almost all my projects. Thanks very much John for the positive feedback regarding Addictive drums. Just wondering are they easy enough to setup in DAW and how do the sounds compare to Realdrums which I currectly use? many thanks Musiclover
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047 |
I did add them as VSTi to BIAB last night. They came
right up.
I just finished a quick function test of AD's.
They worked just fine on the simple test. 09:30am west coast.
Have tried them out standalone with sounds and they are
really excellent sounding.
My opinion, but for pure sound quality, don't think you
can beat RealDrums. They are first class top of the line.
AD appealed to me due to heavy use of VSTi's.
Do need to learn more about building up "my" sets tho.
The new age, Ambient does not seem to be in that system.
Last edited by seeker; 10/01/13 08:29 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,022
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,022 |
My opinion, but for pure sound quality, don't think you
can beat RealDrums. They are first class top of the line.
With all due respect I will disagree with you on this. A good MIDI drum sound source can have be equal to RealTracks for sound quality. BUT the BIG difference is how they are played. Pro drummers are playing on RTs. You will need to do a lot of MIDI manipulation to get the same feel. There are MIDI drum tracks out there like Groove Monkee that are recorded with pro drummers playing on a MIDI drum kit. They are not quantized and, with a good MIDI drum sound source, sound as good as RTs IMHO.
It takes courage for a man to admit his wife was wrong.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047 |
Mario,
No sweat, my opinion is based on midi drums thru the years.
And you made a great point, live example "John Jarvis"
and PG folks with their super midi offerings.
"Thou Shalt not render Opinion based on Old Days"
Last edited by seeker; 10/01/13 11:02 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 598
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 598 |
My opinion, but for pure sound quality, don't think you
can beat RealDrums. They are first class top of the line.
With all due respect I will disagree with you on this. A good MIDI drum sound source can have be equal to RealTracks for sound quality. BUT the BIG difference is how they are played. Pro drummers are playing on RTs. You will need to do a lot of MIDI manipulation to get the same feel. There are MIDI drum tracks out there like Groove Monkee that are recorded with pro drummers playing on a MIDI drum kit. They are not quantized and, with a good MIDI drum sound source, sound as good as RTs IMHO. I love Real Tracks as much as anybody but there is no doubt in my mind a program like Jamstix driving a good VSTI drum module with a killer sampled kit can sound just as good. Also you have full control over the mix with a separate track for each drum kit piece, allowing you to pan and adjust the volume of each component as well as a bunch of other parameters.
BIAB 2026 Ultrapack- Studio One Pro 7 Windows 11, Mac Mini M4 with Logic Pro 11, Melodyne Studio, Luna Pro
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,697 |
As to live midi drums, Biab has hired live drummers for Biab for years. And no, I'm not confusing Real Drums here. Many of the stock Biab midi drum parts were done by live drummers on a midi drum kit. There's one of those little symbols next to the style that denotes live midi drums.
Bob
Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 368
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 368 |
Bob:
I'm curious about this symbol you've mentioned that indicates live midi drums have been played for that style.
Could you explain what the symbol looks like and were to find it in the syle picker?
Thanks.
John
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,022
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,022 |
Mario,
"Thou Shalt not render Opinion based on Old Days" This is great advice and one that I should follow as well!
It takes courage for a man to admit his wife was wrong.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,295
Posts790,695
Members39,854
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean